Severe weather - snow / rain / flooding forecasts - ongoing discussion (merged topic)

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[Chris from Nailsea]

Timings, out of one of the many systems that link into TRUST^▸ (Train Running System TOPS)...

Thanks very much for that, Tom: much better than my rather rushed 'copy and paste' table!   

Is your source of timings something that is generally available (if one knows where to look), or is it 'TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) / staff only'?  I ask because, if it can be accessed / viewed by other members of this forum, it would be an excellent resource!

[swlines]

Staff only I'm afraid - although there is a similar system along the lines of it that if you know where to look for it it's accessable. (fwiw, modify some URLs on live departure boards and you can get passing times for trains - use TIPLOC codes for that! (no, don't ask me what TIPLOC means)).

I purposely rewrote it to make it more readable for what it's worth.

[TerminalJunkie]

no, don't ask me what TIPLOC means

Shame on you

It stands for TIming Point LOCation - and there's a fairly comprehensive list of them here.

[John R]

Staff only I'm afraid - although there is a similar system along the lines of it that if you know where to look for it it's accessable. (fwiw, modify some URLs on live departure boards and you can get passing times for trains - use TIPLOC codes for that! (no, don't ask me what TIPLOC means)).

I purposely rewrote it to make it more readable for what it's worth.

Can you explain how you modify the URL? Maybe give an example with a timing point that isn't a station?

[swlines]

First - find a train that has a compulsory timing point - you can get these from Rules of the Route (google it).

I'm using Worting Junction. Find a train that goes through that routing point (for me, that will be the 2305 London to Poole - although only running to Southampton today).

http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/ldb/train.aspx?C=WOK&T=WOKING++&J=1290891&Y=D&R=0&A=0 - that is the normal URL for Woking.

In this case, I replace the "WOKING++" with WRTINGJ+. (should work out to 8 characters, blank characters should be substituted with +).

http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/ldb/train.aspx?C=WOK&T=WRTINGJ+&J=1290891&Y=D&R=0&A=0 - et voila. Should still work - it sometimes shows passing points, it sometimes doesn't. It depends how the system is working with reporting at that moment in time.

The first URL will go dead in 13 minutes or so, the WRTINGJ mod should go dead at around 0230.

[John R]

Aha, I see. Thanks. But whilst it gives the pass time, if you click on back to departures it reverts to Woking, rather than show trains passing the timing point? Why is that?



 

[swlines]

Worting Junction doesn't have a CRS code so you can't have a station list for that!

[Chris from Nailsea]

Thanks again, Tom, TerminalJunkie and John R - for some VERY useful information, there!

And, TerminalJunkie: just where do you find your apparently inexhaustible supply of smileys???

C.  

[swlines]

no, don't ask me what TIPLOC means

Shame on you

It stands for TIming Point LOCation - and there's a fairly comprehensive list of them here.

The ironic thing is that TIPLOCs aren't really used on TRUST^▸ (Train Running System TOPS) itself! STANMEs are used in TRUST

[TerminalJunkie]

And, TerminalJunkie: just where do you find your apparently inexhaustible supply of smileys???

If I told you that I'd have to kill myself...













Actually, I have a free PHP BB forum at www.takeforum.com which has a nice big collection, and pull them off that.

[John R]

Major speed restrictions on the ECML^▸ (East Coast Main Line) this morning. NatEx running to a revised timetable, 7 hours London to Edinburgh, 3 hours just to get to Doncaster.

[Lee]

Major speed restrictions on the ECML^▸ (East Coast Main Line) this morning. NatEx running to a revised timetable, 7 hours London to Edinburgh, 3 hours just to get to Doncaster.

More in the links below.
http://www.theticketcollector.co.uk/wordpress/2008/03/11/50-mph-speed-restriction-on-east-coast-mainline/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7291239.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/7291371.stm

[Lee]

Nearly 40 homes and a local school have been left without electricity in Backwell this morning after power cables blew down in high winds (link below.)
http://thisisbristol.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144913&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231190&home=yes&more_nodeId1=144922&contentPK=20131168

The loss of power has been caused because an electricity pole on the main A370 through the village blew down in high winds.

Crews from Western Power Distribution are currently on site and working to erect a new pole and reconnect power lines.

[devon_metro]

First - find a train that has a compulsory timing point - you can get these from Rules of the Route (google it).

I'm using Worting Junction. Find a train that goes through that routing point (for me, that will be the 2305 London to Poole - although only running to Southampton today).

http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/ldb/train.aspx?C=WOK&T=WOKING++&J=1290891&Y=D&R=0&A=0 - that is the normal URL for Woking.

In this case, I replace the "WOKING++" with WRTINGJ+. (should work out to 8 characters, blank characters should be substituted with +).

http://www.livedepartureboards.co.uk/ldb/train.aspx?C=WOK&T=WRTINGJ+&J=1290891&Y=D&R=0&A=0 - et voila. Should still work - it sometimes shows passing points, it sometimes doesn't. It depends how the system is working with reporting at that moment in time.

The first URL will go dead in 13 minutes or so, the WRTINGJ mod should go dead at around 0230.

Shocking

[swlines]

An old trick!