Penalty Fares- do they apply any longer?

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Re: Penalty Fares- do they apply any longer?

« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2009, 00:08:04 »

I cant comment on the poster(s) you have seen, without seeing one myself. However Hartlebury is not a PF^▸ station. On no journey commencing from Hartlebury will you be PF'd. This is made clear on NRES^▸ and on the leaflet available for download on LM^▸ 's website. The legislation on PF's also makes it clear that you will not be PF'd on a journey commencing at a station where no means of purchasing a ticket or Permit to Travel exist.
By all means ask the Mods to remove the thread; but I don't think being in a minority of one would hold much sway.....


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« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2009, 00:12:16 »

Quite agree Chris - a letter to LM^▸ , who presumably are responsibly for the offending posters, would be a good idea, rather than telling us all the same thing again and again.

We get what you are saying, based on your interpretation of the posters in the West Midlands.

It's just that it is quite clear from the regulations people have cited here, the FGW^▸ zonal maps, etc, that penalty fares are linked to the station passengers are using, not what route the train is running, even if part of the journey is in a zone, or some stations on a route are covered by penalties and others aren't.


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« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2009, 12:59:01 »

I can't speak for the on-train posters (which, if you're reading them on a train means you might already be eligible for a Penalty Fare of course), but here is the standard Penalty Fare poster as displayed in several locations around Worcester Shrub Hill, a London Midland operated station. No mention of zones. No mention of exclusions. No mention of anything much other than the fact that at the station concerned penalty fares are in operation.


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« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2009, 15:17:47 »

Quote from: Btline on August 20, 2009, 23:59:32

So I have no idea. And can you get rid of this thread

Wise advice, btline clearly has no understanding of common sense and wishes to be pedantic over the smallest details.

The picture IndustyInsider posts is indeed the posters that appear at all Penalty Fare stations in the UK^▸ . Btline, if there is one at Hartlebury, then it is a mistake, however I assure you, there won't be one Wink


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« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2009, 19:03:07 »

Today, I looked at the station/ on train posters, and they have been changed! (they have probably been different for ages, but I don't read them often)

This is because LM^▸ have got rid of the old CT ones.

They no longer state what I have been barking on about, but are as the photo above.

HOWEVER BEFORE LM CHANGED THEM, THEY DID^» STATE THIS! I thereby stand with what I was saying.

So I am sorry for going on about it, but:

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"btline clearly has no understanding of common sense and wishes to be pedantic over the smallest details. etc."

...is uncalled for. I am not dotty or doddery (...doddery I am not!)

Until recently what I was saying was the case.

But as the posters have been changed it is no longer an issue.

Sorry.

Over and out.
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« Reply #80 on: August 28, 2009, 19:26:14 »

Quote from: Btline on August 28, 2009, 19:03:07

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"btline clearly has no understanding of common sense and wishes to be pedantic over the smallest details. etc."

An important lesson learned (for us all!). Very important to check, check and recheck sources of information before being so adamant about something.


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« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2009, 11:51:12 »

Quote from: Btline on August 28, 2009, 19:03:07

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"btline clearly has no understanding of common sense and wishes to be pedantic over the smallest details. etc."

S'Ok Btline. We all still love you really. Even if you do have to press the enter key twice after every sentence... Wink


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« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2009, 23:00:17 »


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