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« on: August 18, 2009, 16:50:43 »
What is now the stance for Penalty Fares from unstaffed stations? A few days ago some desperate lowlifes vandalised the ticket machine at oldfield park to steal the notes, and now there's no way of buying tickets there, but the "warning!" posters remain.

(I know the stations which have working machines between Bristol and Westbury are now only Bristol TM▸ (Train Manager, or possibly Ticket Machine, depending on context), Bath spa, Bradford on avon, and Westbury. Freshford and Avoncliff didn't originally have one.)
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 16:58:52 »
You will only get a penalty fare if challenged by ticket inspectors (as opposed to a ticket guard/conductor).

So don't worry.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 17:09:44 »
AKAIK the penalty fare area around bristol was never bought into effect.  This signs were put up then there was a delay in implementation and it has never happened.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 18:04:54 »
Quote from: super tm on August 18, 2009, 17:09:44
AKAIK the penalty fare area around bristol was never bought into effect.  This signs were put up then there was a delay in implementation and it has never happened.

Perhaps someone should tell FGW▸ (First Great Western), their website seems to imply that penalty fares are in operation in the Bristol area.

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Documents/Custom/Penalty%20Fares%20maps.pdf
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 21:33:50 »
The sceme was never officially signed off by FGW▸ (First Great Western) directors, but don't get too complacent as it is a franchise committment from what I can gather so it will have to be implemented at some point, you wouldn't be PF▸ (Penalty Fare)'d from Oldfield park if the TVM▸ (Ticket Vending Machine) was broken.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2009, 22:06:37 »
don't think there are any RPIs▸ (Revenue Protection Inspector, or Retail Price Index, depending on context) in Bristol anyway. Assistant Ticket Examiners cannot issue Penalty Fares. You can get pf'd from many stations in Devon & Cornwall though
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2009, 22:22:31 »
Quote from: devon_metro on August 18, 2009, 22:06:37
don't think there are any RPIs▸ (Revenue Protection Inspector, or Retail Price Index, depending on context) in Bristol anyway. Assistant Ticket Examiners cannot issue Penalty Fares. You can get pf'd from many stations in Devon & Cornwall though
Strangely 2 of the most obvious stations (Redruth and Camborne) have not be included in the penalty fare zone though.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 22:28:16 »
Quote from: Zo^ on August 18, 2009, 22:22:31
Quote from: devon_metro on August 18, 2009, 22:06:37
don't think there are any RPIs▸ (Revenue Protection Inspector, or Retail Price Index, depending on context) in Bristol anyway. Assistant Ticket Examiners cannot issue Penalty Fares. You can get pf'd from many stations in Devon & Cornwall though
Strangely 2 of the most obvious stations (Redruth and Camborne) have not be included in the penalty fare zone though.
Very sore point within FGW▸ (First Great Western)!!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2009, 22:29:47 »
Quote from: Zo^ on August 18, 2009, 22:22:31
Strangely 2 of the most obvious stations (Redruth and Camborne) have not be included in the penalty fare zone though.

That's irrelevant. If your train passes through a penalty fare area, it is a penalty fare train! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2009, 22:32:53 »
No btline, if I travel from Redruth to Camborne, I don't have to buy a ticket however face the risk of an anytime single.

I found it astronomical that Camborne is excluded considering some of the fare dodgers that reside there... Wink
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2009, 22:34:21 »
No, but if your train passes through a penalty fare area, it is a penalty fare train (as it says on the posters).

It doesn't matter where you get on and off.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2009, 22:41:45 »
For once, how about trusting those with local knowledge?
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 22:43:41 »
Quote from: willc on August 18, 2009, 22:41:45
For once, how about trusting those with local knowledge?

I'm just repeating what it says on the posters!

And explain what you mean by "for once".
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 22:45:04 »
Quote from: Btline on August 18, 2009, 22:34:21
No, but if your train passes through a penalty fare area, it is a penalty fare train (as it says on the posters).

It doesn't matter where you get on and off.
Stations west of Truro are not in the penalty fare zone.  This includes Redruth and Camborne.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 22:51:24 »
Quote from: Btline on August 18, 2009, 22:34:21
No, but if your train passes through a penalty fare area, it is a penalty fare train (as it says on the posters).

It doesn't matter where you get on and off.

By that logic a direct train from Pembroke Dock to London would mean I am liable to being penalty fared by travelling Pembroke Dock to Pembroke. I think not
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