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« on: August 02, 2009, 08:22:27 » |
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It seems that FGW▸ are rehashing their walk-on fares after 6th Sept on a wide (geographical) scale where Super off peak don't exist already Bad news...The long distance Off Peak fares increasing by about 20%, (Redruth - London, currently ^83 will be ^100) allowing introduction of Super Off Peak fares at the current off peak price but with far more time restrictions including "not Fridays", yep back to that old chestnut again.  Good news... It seems that the walk on single versions of the above will be half the price of the return  Discuss |
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2009, 11:22:27 » |
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Super off peak is another walk on ticket that has been used by some other TOCs▸ since the walk-ons were rehashed last September. It is more restrictive than an Off peak ticket hence cheaper, allegedly.
You must know that this is all part of the usual 5-6 year cycle to make the ticket scheme more and more complicated before the Tocs can then declare that they're going to make it easier for everyone and hey ho it all starts again.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2009, 11:34:51 » |
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Super off peak = Super Saver or for those who remember a Blue Saver!
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2009, 12:39:01 » |
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Ah the super saver that was abandoned to make things more simple. Now known as Super Off Peak, why do tickets continue to get more and more complicated when things are supposed to be getting made easier for the public to understand....?
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2009, 13:40:17 » |
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What's Super Off Peak? AFAIK▸ , there are three types of tickets, ADVANCED, OFF-PEAK and ANYTIME (four if you count season tickets)? Then again, I only check / sell them as part of my job (when I'm bored, have nothing better to do, and the boiler is broken! ) Many TOCs▸ use them. e.g. Chiltern for services arriving in London after 1 pm and not departing London between 4-6 pm (anytime at weekends). However, unlike FGW▸ , Chiltern did not increase the price of the Off Peak tickets, they just introduced a lower price as a "Just 15" brand. In the fares simplification it became Super Off Peak (and it is now nearer ^21 due to rises) And unlike FGW, they don't have "no Friday" restrictions. |
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2009, 13:55:10 » |
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Ah the super saver that was abandoned to make things more simple.
And to increase the fare though the cost of the Saver did come down a bit if I remember. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2009, 14:10:06 » |
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2009, 15:15:06 » |
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And unlike FGW▸ , they don't have "no Friday" restrictions.
I wasn't aware that this has actually happened yet? Nor am I convinced that it will. There will be riots. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2009, 15:34:22 » |
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I thought the Off Peak Return was a regulated fare and so limited to an increase of inflation plus 1 percent.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2009, 15:41:40 » |
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Excellent point!
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2009, 15:50:14 » |
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It looks like the Super Off Peak Single will be exactly the same price as the most expensive Advance Single. The 12:42 departure from Newton Abbot always seems to only have the ^34.50 Advance fare available so with the Super Off Peak Single at the same price it would be pointless booking in advance.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2009, 16:24:36 » |
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And unlike FGW▸ , they don't have "no Friday" restrictions.
I wasn't aware that this has actually happened yet? Nor am I convinced that it will. There will be riots. It's all due to kick off on the 6th or 7th Sept, apparently the info is already in the ticket machines in Cornwall |
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2009, 16:31:27 » |
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I thought the Off Peak Return was a regulated fare and so limited to an increase of inflation plus 1 percent.
100% correct. However the TOCs▸ can change time restrictions on regulated fares as they wish. This allows fares increases by stealth. CrossCountry did it with a blanket 'not before 0930' on their SVRs, although they soon backtracked after the furore this created. They also introduced an afternoon 'Peak' for their CDRs▸ in places where they set the fare. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2009, 16:58:24 » |
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I thought the Off Peak Return was a regulated fare and so limited to an increase of inflation plus 1 percent.
100% correct. However the TOCs▸ can change time restrictions on regulated fares as they wish. This allows fares increases by stealth. CrossCountry did it with a blanket 'not before 0930' on their SVRs, although they soon backtracked after the furore this created. They also introduced an afternoon 'Peak' for their CDRs▸ in places where they set the fare. Both correct, but from what I was shown yesterday, the off peak restrictions are not changing but the price most certainly is from ^83 to ^100, Being 5 weeks away something still might change, so I might go back and ask a few more questions tomorrow. |
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2009, 17:15:13 » |
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Seems the introduction of Super Off Peak is true, however prices apparently still being discussed!  |
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