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« Reply #180 on: October 21, 2009, 18:17:56 » |
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It has been reported in one of the mags (you can look it up) that the HST▸ 's are being considered for life-extension until 2030, as suggested a few posts above......
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« Reply #181 on: October 23, 2009, 21:57:38 » |
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Mk III coaches are good. Don't knock them - especially when you've got a few more tables in like the good ole days.
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« Reply #182 on: October 25, 2009, 11:46:55 » |
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I donmt see the concervatives scrapping the lectrification swcheme for teh great western simply because it will allow them to reduce the amount of subsidy they have to pay out as the electric trains are cheaper to operate.
also i have noticed that maybe the wires should be extended from Bristol to exeter st davids as this will mean that the Cardiff - Taunton & Weston Super Mare - Bristol Parkway services will be able to be operated using a few EMU▸ 'S thus meaning that FGW▸ will be able to save at least 8 dmus which could help to boost capacity elsewhere
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« Reply #183 on: October 25, 2009, 12:20:47 » |
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also i have noticed that maybe the wires should be extended from Bristol to exeter st davids as this will mean that the Cardiff - Taunton & Weston Super Mare - Bristol Parkway services will be able to be operated using a few EMU▸ 'S thus meaning that FGW▸ will be able to save at least 8 dmus which could help to boost capacity elsewhere
If you are going to electrify as far as Exeter St Davids you may as well continue though to Plymouth assuming the Dawlish Sea Wall does not prevent this. Most intercity trains do not terminate at Exeter but continue through to Plymouth so if the electrification did end at Exeter diesel would be required for the section from Exeter to Plymouth. |
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« Reply #184 on: October 25, 2009, 21:06:22 » |
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Which neatly brings us back to a topic I raised earlier/in another thread ie whether the old Southern route over Datmoor should be looked at or the old GWR▸ route around the back of the coast?
The coastal route is great - and I spent many happy journeys on it in the late 50s and early 60s with steam - but I'm not sure it's good for long term electrification.
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« Reply #185 on: April 23, 2010, 19:22:55 » |
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When it was announced back in July last year that the GWML▸ was to be electrified, on the news reports I watched it said that the work to begin electrifying the Great Western mainline would begin immediately. That was on BBC» , ITN, and Sky News. Now I didn't expect that to mean the work would begin that day or even that month. But we are now some 9 months later in April, and there is still no sign of the physical work of the GWML actually being electrified. So what's happening? Is electrification of the GWML another of those things which never ends up actually going ahead?
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« Reply #186 on: April 23, 2010, 19:30:41 » |
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Suggest asking that question after the general election but me thinks it could be kicked into the long grass for a few more years now IEP▸ looks dead in the water. So another refurb/refit for the GW▸ HST▸ fleet in a few years time?
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« Reply #187 on: April 23, 2010, 21:05:51 » |
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Work in the drawing office is still progress. It was always going to be ages ( a couple of years) before any masts started appearing beside the track IMHO▸ .
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« Reply #188 on: April 24, 2010, 08:11:37 » |
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Paul is correct there is a team working on the development, the process still has to follow GRIP▸ at each GRIP stage there are number of deliverables that have to be meet to secure funding for the next stage. The GWML▸ is being developed at the same time as the other routes announced. There is also collaboration between the GWML project and Crossrail.
My guess is, provided GWML electrification gets the funding it will do the Crossrail electrification area first.
Post election may have an effect of the whole scheme, part of the scheme or have no effect at all as has been the case since the First World War the UK▸ railway is in the hands of the vagaries of the politicians
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« Reply #189 on: April 29, 2010, 14:08:30 » |
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I have heard the welsh assembly have said they would be willing to put some money forward to have the wires through to Swansea.
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« Reply #190 on: April 29, 2010, 15:57:49 » |
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The approved scheme includes wiring as far as Swansea.
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« Reply #192 on: June 16, 2010, 15:54:09 » |
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Interesting... I'm sure I read in the last issue of RAIL (well, possibly the last but one because it takes them a few weeks to find their way into my mailbox Stateside) a quote from Phillip Hammond in which he indicated that they were committed to GWML▸ electrification.
What seems to be the prevailing attitude of "HS2▸ at all costs and b*gg*r the rest of the network" seems to be utterly ludicrous to me. If there are limited resources available (which there most certainly are!) why on earth are huge sums being p*ssed up the wall on a "nice-to-have" vanity project like HS2 which will benefit a relatively limited number of people when that same amount of money could be making vast improvements for millions of passengers on the existing rail network?
Easy solution: ditch HS2 for now: it's not as if it was ever going to be in action quickly anyway, and what appears to be the current plan just to build London to Birmingham would result in a pretty vestigial high-speed line that just duplicates one of the country's fastest and most frequent rail services anyway. Instead, spend the money on GWML electrification/new rolling stock/RDG‡ and BHM upgrades. Is this really that complicated? HS2 is a project that we can always come back to in due course when the money's actually available.
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« Reply #193 on: June 16, 2010, 16:07:46 » |
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A similar comment from the Press Association casting severe doubt on GW▸ electrification, and I guess too on North West fill in electrification.
HSTs▸ and DMUs▸ for ever it seems with Crossrail getting no further west than Maidenhead.
Happy times ahead!
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