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« Reply #2265 on: January 04, 2017, 20:03:12 »

I detect a greater confidence in NR» (Network Rail - home page) that the electrification will be extended to Maidenhead by May. 

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/new-electric-trains-provide-extra-6-550-seats-a-day

"Maidenhead will be the next area to benefit from the new electric trains with the 387s expected to start running between their and London Paddington from May."

Though as noted before, how many of the units released will result in a net gain to the West's fleet remains to be seen.
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« Reply #2266 on: January 04, 2017, 20:13:53 »

Whether the grammar in 'their' press release will be corrected also remains to be seen.  Shocked Roll Eyes
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #2267 on: January 04, 2017, 21:16:14 »


Why, in the context of Maidenhead to Paddington services, does the press release show Hitachi IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.)'s at Reading?

Sloppy journalism,

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« Reply #2268 on: January 04, 2017, 21:49:47 »


Sloppy journalism,


Oh, don't even go there!  Shocked Roll Eyes Grin

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #2269 on: January 04, 2017, 21:51:45 »

Yes, and watching the Open Train Times map for Paddington earlier today I got the feeling the service was gradually falling apart trying to cram to many services into a pint pot.  Delays got worse and worse over a period of an hour.  It appeared that trains were being manually signalled as routes were not being set in advance enough to give trains clear signals with very poor regulating of conflicts.  I accept that of course we can only guess what was actually going on at TVSC» (Thames Valley Signalling Centre - about) but it gave a pretty poor impression to this onlooker.
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« Reply #2270 on: January 04, 2017, 21:57:24 »


Why, in the context of Maidenhead to Paddington services, does the press release show Hitachi IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.)'s at Reading?

Sloppy journalism,

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Eh? It looks nothing like an IEP ... flush double doors, for a start. I was a bit puzzled by the door steps, but they seem to be a recent addition to the 387s.

Oh, and Reading hasn't got a glass roof like that either, has it?
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« Reply #2271 on: January 04, 2017, 22:04:05 »

Correct Stuving, its a 387 at Paddington
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« Reply #2272 on: January 04, 2017, 23:23:14 »

I detect a greater confidence in NR» (Network Rail - home page) that the electrification will be extended to Maidenhead by May...
They published a go live date (in February sometime) quite awhile ago.  Installation looks fairly complete as observed from passing trains, I don't think Maidenhead in May is at all unlikely.

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« Reply #2273 on: January 05, 2017, 09:53:23 »

I detect a greater confidence in NR» (Network Rail - home page) that the electrification will be extended to Maidenhead by May...
They published a go live date (in February sometime) quite awhile ago.  Installation looks fairly complete as observed from passing trains, I don't think Maidenhead in May is at all unlikely.

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Still awaitng connections at Taplow to the hangers above the gantry arms,

The main feed from the transformers?
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« Reply #2274 on: January 05, 2017, 11:40:56 »

I detect a greater confidence in NR» (Network Rail - home page) that the electrification will be extended to Maidenhead by May...
They published a go live date (in February sometime) quite awhile ago.  Installation looks fairly complete as observed from passing trains, I don't think Maidenhead in May is at all unlikely.

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A manager posting on WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) forum is training up drivers on the 387s in anticipation of running an electric service to Maidenhead in May. Apparently the service will be limited by turnback facilities initially but will subsequently be ramped up by December.

Given the current rate of progress west of Maidenhead, I would expect to see electric services through to Didcot by the end of the year if not earlier and wouldn't rule out the wires to Swindon being live by then, provided NR sort out the issues at Steventon.
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« Reply #2275 on: January 05, 2017, 12:23:40 »

It would certainly be nice if Paddington to Didcot was fully live for the planned introduction of the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) trains in summer.  It would seem a shame to run them on diesel all the way, and rather cumbersome to run them electric to Maidenhead, diesel to Tilehurst, electric to Didcot and diesel onwards!
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« Reply #2276 on: January 05, 2017, 14:42:09 »


Eh? It looks nothing like an IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) ... flush double doors, for a start. I was a bit puzzled by the door steps, but they seem to be a recent addition to the 387s.

Oh, and Reading hasn't got a glass roof like that either, has it?

I agree that the top image is of a contemporary unit at Paddington.

If you look at the 3 images at the bottom of the article you will see that the central one is from platform 9 at Reading. Also the two right hand images have units in multiple bearing the words "Hitachi" and "Agility Trains".

Festina lente,

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« Reply #2277 on: January 05, 2017, 14:55:34 »

If you look at the 3 images at the bottom of the article you will see that the central one is from platform 9 at Reading. Also the two right hand images have units in multiple bearing the words "Hitachi" and "Agility Trains".

Festina lente,

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But is that part of the press release? It's underneath the heading "About the Railway Upgrade Plan", where some more general pictures might properly belong.

Now, you might well ask "why have quotes from this press release been put under pictures they don't relate to?" That is sloppy - though perhaps PR (Public Relations) rather than journalism.
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« Reply #2278 on: January 06, 2017, 00:15:41 »

Yes, we seem to have gone full circle on that one.  Roll Eyes

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #2279 on: January 06, 2017, 21:13:00 »

I detect a greater confidence in NR» (Network Rail - home page) that the electrification will be extended to Maidenhead by May...
They published a go live date (in February sometime) quite awhile ago.  Installation looks fairly complete as observed from passing trains, I don't think Maidenhead in May is at all unlikely.

Paul

Still awaitng connections at Taplow to the hangers above the gantry arms,

The main feed from the transformers?

mmmmm not technically correct the "hangers above the gantry arms" are there to support what is called the Auto Transformer Feeder, the way the auto transformer systems works you need all 3 electrical conductors - the contact wire, the ATF and the running rails / earth wire.   Although the system will work in "classic" mode that is contact wire live ATF isolated but that is a restrictive mode to operate in.

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