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Working 0630 Exeter to Paddington via Bristol.
Looked pretty smart at a very superficial glance.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 20:25:23 » |
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Saw it today at paddington, its looks to be quite a good product is a million times better than a trolley and is better than a voyager shop when of course they had them.
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All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 20:45:35 » |
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I'm still yet to the see the interior, but have viewed it from the outside.
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JayMac
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 22:56:29 » |
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Saw one in use on a CDF» -PAD» on Monday 3rd. Well laid out - CH said he liked it. And I'm sure the extra Standard seating will come in handy. Interestingly, unless my eyes decieved me, there was a yellow stripe above the door and first window only at the buffet end of the vehicle. There's no 1st class accomodation in these mini buffets so why the yellow stripe? I suspect this might be an effort to stop the proles boarding through this door.
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 23:03:20 » |
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Yellow stripe is indeed to stop the plebs boarding right next to the FC‡ vestibule.
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 23:09:45 » |
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So there are only 2 FC‡ carriages? And FC is not right next to the buffet?
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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JayMac
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2009, 00:10:29 » |
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So there are only 2 FC‡ carriages? And FC is not right next to the buffet?
The mini buffets are at the 1st class end of the coach but it does mean, FallenAngel, that you are going to have to walk a few steps through the 'rubber bit' to get your microwave cheeseburger or bottle of Diet Coke.   |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2009, 09:11:49 » |
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Personally I still prefer the old style buffet cars, but then again I am a bit of an old fart.
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willc
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2009, 10:32:04 » |
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Saw one in use on a CDF» -PAD» on Monday 3rd. Well laid out - CH said he liked it. And I'm sure the extra Standard seating will come in handy. Interestingly, unless my eyes decieved me, there was a yellow stripe above the door and first window only at the buffet end of the vehicle. There's no 1st class accomodation in these mini buffets so why the yellow stripe? I suspect this might be an effort to stop the proles boarding through this door.
I suspect it might be to stop people trying to drag enormous bags through a narrow corridor past the buffet - it's not as if there's a lot of space to squeeze past the counter and kitchen in the existing buffets, nor was there in a 180, and I don't suppose these are any different. |
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JayMac
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2009, 16:31:04 » |
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Saw one in use on a CDF» -PAD» on Monday 3rd. Well laid out - CH said he liked it. And I'm sure the extra Standard seating will come in handy. Interestingly, unless my eyes decieved me, there was a yellow stripe above the door and first window only at the buffet end of the vehicle. There's no 1st class accomodation in these mini buffets so why the yellow stripe? I suspect this might be an effort to stop the proles boarding through this door.
I hate to say it, but there is not going to be extra Standard class seating, but about 14 less - the idea is the new buffet will be on a 2+7, 2 FC‡ carriages, 5 STD carriages, inc buffet. I hadn't noticed the golden stripe above the door. I'm surprised that somebody was that organised! Fair enough. I didn't count the number of carriages in the set I travelled in. I just headed for where I expected Coach E to be, as usual!! |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2009, 17:43:45 » |
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E is renamed F on these sets, so I presume that reservations in the buffet will no longer be possible.
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JayMac
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2009, 18:26:30 » |
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Saw one in use on a CDF» -PAD» on Monday 3rd. Well laid out - CH said he liked it. And I'm sure the extra Standard seating will come in handy. Interestingly, unless my eyes decieved me, there was a yellow stripe above the door and first window only at the buffet end of the vehicle. There's no 1st class accomodation in these mini buffets so why the yellow stripe? I suspect this might be an effort to stop the proles boarding through this door.
I suspect it might be to stop people trying to drag enormous bags through a narrow corridor past the buffet - it's not as if there's a lot of space to squeeze past the counter and kitchen in the existing buffets, nor was there in a 180, and I don't suppose these are any different. There is actually much more space around these mini buffets. They're not as deep as the current ones meaning more space for passengers to pass by. |
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"A clear conscience laughs at a false accusation."
"Treat everyone the same until you find out they're an idiot."
"Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity."
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2009, 17:14:09 » |
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Yellow stripe is indeed to stop the plebs boarding right next to the FC‡ vestibule.
Does this mean that all doors are in use and the pair of doors next to the buffet are not perminantly locked closed like they used to be on the old buffets? (it is my understanding that this was done before CDL▸ was introduced because the doors near the buffet where the most likely ones for people to fall out of - presumably because more people milling around and possibly drinking) . |
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2009, 18:26:02 » |
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all doors are in use
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All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
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caliwag
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2009, 11:31:14 » |
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Spotted yesterday in Carlisle...a class 67.7 hauling an overhauled FGW▸ buffet/restaurant, a class 50 and two barrier vehicles. The Buffet looked quite superb...refurbed in Springburn!!?. The photo is bound to appear in the next Railway Herald.  |
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