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« Reply #1890 on: March 12, 2025, 09:44:21 »

Last night's down sleeper has failed at Menheniot and is awaiting rescue.

According to RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) at 0939 today, it's not moved yet.  Unless either RTT or I are missing something, there appears to be no rescue locomotive approaching from either direction
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« Reply #1891 on: March 12, 2025, 10:42:33 »

Watching on OTT (Open Train Times website) the rescue loco was 1Z99 which took the sleeper back to Plymouth, then on to Laira.
I'm wondering what the rescue loco would have been? In the past they have used 2 back-to-back HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) power cars.
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« Reply #1892 on: March 12, 2025, 12:37:32 »

Watching on OTT (Open Train Times website) the rescue loco was 1Z99 which took the sleeper back to Plymouth, then on to Laira.
I'm wondering what the rescue loco would have been? In the past they have used 2 back-to-back HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) power cars.
Unfortunately there was no mention of what 1Z99 actually was.
It delayed 1A78 (Penzance - Paddington) leaving Plymouth whilst waiting for 1Z99 to pull into Laira.
Only by 8 or 9 minutes, but looking at RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) it was delayed further between Cogload Junction and Athelney Crossing, so now 27 minutes down.
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« Reply #1893 on: March 12, 2025, 13:14:03 »

The rescue was carried out by a 4 coach Castle set! Wonder what they will use once the Castle class is retired?
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« Reply #1894 on: March 12, 2025, 14:28:29 »

The rescue was carried out by a 4 coach Castle set! Wonder what they will use once the Castle class is retired?


They could use the class 57 off the sleeper as their Thunderbird.

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« Reply #1895 on: March 12, 2025, 15:47:40 »

Having lots of locos standing idle at depots is obviously an expensive and bad thing But one or two Thunderbird locos strategically located would be very useful.

I suppose with most passenger trains now being powered by more than a single power unit, the general thought is that even the failure of a couple of its engines would not mean a train cannot limp on

For failures in Cornwall, is there a way to seek assistant locos from the remaining loco pool for the clay traffic?
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« Reply #1896 on: March 12, 2025, 17:08:38 »

Having lots of locos standing idle at depots is obviously an expensive and bad thing But one or two Thunderbird locos strategically located would be very useful.

I suppose with most passenger trains now being powered by more than a single power unit, the general thought is that even the failure of a couple of its engines would not mean a train cannot limp on

For failures in Cornwall, is there a way to seek assistant locos from the remaining loco pool for the clay traffic?

You’d think they’d be a case for funding from the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) of additional 57s based at Laira purely for rescuing IETs (Intercity Express Train) at Dawlish
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« Reply #1897 on: March 13, 2025, 07:24:34 »

Having lots of locos standing idle at depots is obviously an expensive and bad thing But one or two Thunderbird locos strategically located would be very useful.

I suppose with most passenger trains now being powered by more than a single power unit, the general thought is that even the failure of a couple of its engines would not mean a train cannot limp on

For failures in Cornwall, is there a way to seek assistant locos from the remaining loco pool for the clay traffic?

You’d think they’d be a case for funding from the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) of additional 57s based at Laira purely for rescuing IETs (Intercity Express Train) at Dawlish

But we were assured that Super Hitachi Intercity Trains would be Dawlish proofed...

Oh maybe not.
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« Reply #1898 on: March 13, 2025, 07:28:56 »

On a serious note though...

The drawbar on a HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) is supposed to be for emergency use only but GWR (Great Western Railway) continually use them willy nilly.

My suggestion, permanent 105 tonne tail light, 57 each end? Performance will drop a bit but the timings are deliberately slack anyway.

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« Reply #1899 on: March 14, 2025, 08:57:53 »

Apparently 57305 and 57311 are being hired in for a year to cover 602 and 604 which are both due heavy maintenance exams.
Hopefully that will improve reliability, however time will tell!
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« Reply #1900 on: March 14, 2025, 09:10:05 »

Apparently 57305 and 57311 are being hired in for a year to cover 602 and 604 which are both due heavy maintenance exams.
Hopefully that will improve reliability, however time will tell!

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« Reply #1901 on: March 29, 2025, 14:44:46 »

Sun, 30 March 21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04

Facilities on the 30/03/25 21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04.

This is due to a shortage of train crew.

There are no reservations on this service throughout.

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Due to a resourcing issue we are unable to operate Sunday evening's Sleeper service between Penzance and London Paddington.

We have arranged for this service to be operated by one of our regular Intercity Express Trains which will offer a Standard and First Class seating service only. There will be no accommodation facilities.
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« Reply #1902 on: March 29, 2025, 20:26:24 »

And cancelled throughout from Paddington to Penzance tomorrow night.
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« Reply #1903 on: Yesterday at 07:08:50 »

And cancelled throughout from Paddington to Penzance tomorrow night.

Not quite, but apparently it's going to be "started from Exeter St Davids" at 0436, so no-one will be getting much sleep!
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« Reply #1904 on: Yesterday at 19:55:46 »

And cancelled throughout from Paddington to Penzance tomorrow night.

Not quite, but apparently it's going to be "started from Exeter St Davids" at 0436, so no-one will be getting much sleep!

Update.......now cancelled throughout.
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