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« Reply #1815 on: May 29, 2024, 19:59:35 »


The Daily Mirror must be struggling a bit if that's all they can find to criticise the PM for.  I certainly wouldn't have known it cost that much so don't feel it's rubbing people's noses in it.  On the other hand I'm baffled by how it could possibly be worth that much and find myself questioning the judgement of anyone who buys one, but that doesn't seem the be the point they're trying to make.
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« Reply #1816 on: May 29, 2024, 20:21:59 »

The sleeper crews knew a VIP was due this week, just not who. 
They were told to limit the amount of food given out on Monday and Tuesday to ensure there was enough breakfast stock for this.

It would have to be either the Prime Minister, or broadgage.  Grin

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« Reply #1817 on: May 30, 2024, 00:05:30 »

I'm slightly disappointed.

Finn and I took the Night Riviera just over a week ago. We weren't waved off by Mr Hopwood.

Finn slept soundly. I did too until the Reading stop when some idiot decided all the slam doors had to live up to their name and be slammed shut. Note to GWR (Great Western Railway) Sleeper staff/Reading dispatchers: It is possible to close the doors on Mk3 carriages relatively quietly.

My sleep was aided by a couple glasses (well, plastic beakers) of an agreeable Port in the lounge car.





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My backpack cost £19.99. From one of those cheap luggage shops dotted around central London. Served me well for over 5 years. Getting a little careworn now but I've no plans to replace it with a £750 one.

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« Reply #1818 on: May 30, 2024, 07:33:08 »


I do think we should have a degree of sympathy for Rishi over this - it may well be that this is a special re-enforced back pack fitted with a bullet proof lining to save him from being stabbed in the back now (or later) by people who have been close to him but feel he has let them down in some way and are perhaps looking to usurp his position.   
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« Reply #1819 on: May 30, 2024, 14:02:39 »


I do think we should have a degree of sympathy for Rishi over this - it may well be that this is a special re-enforced back pack fitted with a bullet proof lining to save him from being stabbed in the back now (or later) by people who have been close to him but feel he has let them down in some way and are perhaps looking to usurp his position.   

£750? That’s chicken feed, Macron is protected by £8k umbrellas.

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https://zambianobserver.com/chaos-as-french-secret-service-rush-to-protect-president-emmanuel-macron-with-8000-umbrella-after-hes-pelted-with-tomatoes-following-his-re-election/

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« Reply #1820 on: May 30, 2024, 16:19:18 »

We often catalogue delays on the West of England sleepers but some long journeys on the Caledonian Sleeper last night due to problems on the West Coast Main line

Euston to Fort William 13:48 (due 11:00) (16 and a half hours after leaving London)
Euston to Aberdeen 10:35 (08:40)
Euston to Inverness - cancelled at Edinburgh
Euston to Glasgow 09:32 (07:18)
Euston to Edinburgh 09:31 (08:30)

Fort William/Aberdeen/Inverness to Euston 12:37 (08:00)
Glasgow/Edinburgh to Euston 09:36 (07:15)
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« Reply #1821 on: May 30, 2024, 17:18:01 »


I do think we should have a degree of sympathy for Rishi over this - it may well be that this is a special re-enforced back pack fitted with a bullet proof lining to save him from being stabbed in the back now (or later) by people who have been close to him but feel he has let them down in some way and are perhaps looking to usurp his position.   

£750? That’s chicken feed, Macron is protected by £8k umbrellas.

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When things got heated at a local market northwest of Paris, demonstrators started throwing tomatoes at Macron, but the French Secret Service shielded him with £8,000 Kevlar bullet-proof umbrellas.

https://zambianobserver.com/chaos-as-french-secret-service-rush-to-protect-president-emmanuel-macron-with-8000-umbrella-after-hes-pelted-with-tomatoes-following-his-re-election/

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I must pay my Taylor a visit  iykyk.
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« Reply #1822 on: May 30, 2024, 17:34:47 »

I do think we should have a degree of sympathy for Rishi over this - it may well be that this is a special re-enforced back pack fitted with a bullet proof lining to save him from being stabbed in the back now (or later) by people who have been close to him but feel he has let them down in some way and are perhaps looking to usurp his position.   

... as happened to Boris Johnson, when Michael Gove (at least metaphorically!) stabbed him in the back, withdrawing support at the last moment.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #1823 on: May 30, 2024, 21:15:45 »

Not unexpected during an election campaign but Sunak's next mode of transport from Cornwall was a chartered helicopter. This hasn't gone down well in some quarters.
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« Reply #1824 on: May 31, 2024, 06:00:29 »

Not unexpected during an election campaign but Sunak's next mode of transport from Cornwall was a chartered helicopter. This hasn't gone down well in some quarters.

Not surprising, helicopters are expensive and burn a lot of fuel. Useful for medical and other emergencies but routine use should be discouraged. Climate emergency ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1825 on: May 31, 2024, 09:22:58 »

Not unexpected during an election campaign but Sunak's next mode of transport from Cornwall was a chartered helicopter. This hasn't gone down well in some quarters.

Local TV showed him exiting the sleeper at Penzance - with him saying "It was an experience"
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« Reply #1826 on: May 31, 2024, 12:14:55 »


I do think we should have a degree of sympathy for Rishi over this - it may well be that this is a special re-enforced back pack fitted with a bullet proof lining to save him from being stabbed in the back now (or later) by people who have been close to him but feel he has let them down in some way and are perhaps looking to usurp his position.   

If he's going to be stabbed in the back, it will have to be a decent knife - Global at the very least, preferably in a quality presentation case.

I couldn't care less what price clobber the PM and future PM wear. Neither is a pauper, and if they want to help the economy by paying more VAT (Value Added Tax) on clothing than I do, fine by me. Other people on their salary dress similarly, and the normal daytime outfit of suit and tie invariably costs a packet for any front bench politician of any colour.
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« Reply #1827 on: May 31, 2024, 16:24:19 »

Sleepless night for those travelling tonight...............


21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:08
Facilities on the 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:08.
This is due to the train for this service having broken down.

Additional Facilities Information;

Due to a resourcing issue we are unable to operate this evenings Sleeper service between Penzance and London Paddington.

We have arranged for this service to be operated by one of our regular Intercity Express Trains which will offer a Standard and First Class seating service only. There will be no accommodation facilities.
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« Reply #1828 on: May 31, 2024, 17:52:04 »

Sleepless night for those travelling tonight...............


21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:08
Facilities on the 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:08.
This is due to the train for this service having broken down.

Additional Facilities Information;

Due to a resourcing issue we are unable to operate this evenings Sleeper service between Penzance and London Paddington.

We have arranged for this service to be operated by one of our regular Intercity Express Trains which will offer a Standard and First Class seating service only. There will be no accommodation facilities.

Good job this fifn't happen the other way on Tuesday.
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« Reply #1829 on: May 31, 2024, 20:43:40 »

Not unexpected during an election campaign but Sunak's next mode of transport from Cornwall was a chartered helicopter. This hasn't gone down well in some quarters.

Not surprising, helicopters are expensive and burn a lot of fuel. Useful for medical and other emergencies but routine use should be discouraged. Climate emergency ?

A politician's choice of transport is never going to please everybody. Even the humble bicycle has its critics, given the huge outlay of energy in mining the metal and forging the steel, the colonial history of rubber for tyres, and the extinction-level threat to us all posed by a can of 3 in 1. A helicopter is a pragmatic tool in the life of a senior politician or royal, giving greater security than a motorcade and saving precious time. David Cameron began his premiership walking to Parliament, but gave in when he realised how many police had to be deployed compared to when he went by bulletproof ministerial car. Whatever one may think of the individual, the cost purely in financial terms of a senior minister being attacked far outweighs that of a chartered chopper. So what were the alternatives?
Car - would have to be followed by at least two others for advisors, a police escort, plus coaches for the press pack. Several hours in transit, during which he can't be anywhere else. Effectively a full day out, which for a minister during an election campaign is a no-no.
Train - Mr Sunak cleverly sneaked in the journey down without anyone twigging, thus managing a sleep. He could hardly catch the delayed 1750 back to Paddington once the cat was out of the bag, though. He would need close protection, aides, advisors etc with him, and probably a BTP (British Transport Police) presence on every platform along the route. There would be a possibility of a conversation such as "I'm sure we can reach a peace deal, Mr Biden/Netanyahu/Putin, but I'm about to enter Whiteball tunnel."
Don't go to Cornwall - might as well write the headlines yourself - "PM SNUBS COUNTY AGAIN - Local man says he's outraged (we think that's what he said)". Forget it.
Private plane - unless it's Grant Shapps and his US-registered Saratoga which could manage Lands End airport, it would have to be from Newquay, and presumably to RAF (Royal Air Force) Northolt or London City. That adds additional steps, including through London traffic, which would lose the time gained by the higher speed of a fixed wing craft. A business jet would be more expensive than a helicopter. Which leaves:
Helicopter - expensive, noisy, but point to point and out of reach of all but the most determined miscreant. From the cost, deduct three single 1st-class fares from Penzance to Paddington at £224.40 each, and it isn't too bad after all.
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