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« Reply #1785 on: August 18, 2023, 05:27:37 » |
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From Cornwall Live Couple's journey ruined as sleeper train cancelled at last minute
People travelling between Cornwall and London on sleeper trains this autumn could face uncomfortable journeys as railworks cause cancellations. It comes after an elderly couple paid for a sleeper berth but had to travel through the night on a regular train at the weekend.
Anne Richardson said: "On Sunday evening my husband and I were booked on the sleeper from Paddington and arrived at the station at 5:30pm to be told at the ticket office that it was running. At around 8:30pm when waiting in the lounge an employee informed us very politely that there was a query regarding the sleeper. (Continues in link) Link not working for me Here's the long link version https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/couples-journey-ruined-sleeper-train-8685049 |
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« Reply #1786 on: August 18, 2023, 09:20:54 » |
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People would pay good money for such a railtour in a classic HST▸ or with D1000/50XXX hauling some rattly old MkI stock I might pay good money for such a railtour, but would be less impressed if expecting a sleeper by a reasonably direct and punctual route. In view of the relatively early morning arrival of the sleepers, minor delays of up to say 30 minutes are in my view of little consequence for most passengers, and longer delays of up to an hour arguably acceptable. Railtours are noted for the provision of booked seats, padded seats, buffet cars, proper first class and other facilities that are considered unreasonable to provide on new trains. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1787 on: August 18, 2023, 09:46:43 » |
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Obviously they need a sleeper version of the IET▸ . Indeed - From Penzance - but to Glasgow or Edinburgh, joining with a Weymouth portion at New Street to the other of those cities. And a Euston to Stirling, with portions onward to Inverness via Aberdeen and to Fort William. Couchette style returning the same routes as day carriages. Where is the demand for a Penzance to Glasgow sleeper? How much would it cost? .......and oooooooooooos gonna pay for it? Do you think the DfT» would commit to the necessary subsidy similar to that which keeps the Night Riviera going? |
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« Reply #1788 on: August 18, 2023, 09:53:29 » |
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I suspect that there is a demand for other sleeper services. The environmental costs of flying and driving are increasing concerns, and trains are the obvious alternatives, preferably electric trains.
Use of a sleeper train saves the expense and the energy use of a hotel stay.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1789 on: August 18, 2023, 12:42:40 » |
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The expense being added to your sleeper fare though. (see Scottish sleeper fares)
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« Reply #1790 on: October 09, 2023, 07:37:41 » |
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23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:54 08/10/23 23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:54 will no longer call at Lostwithiel. This is due to a fault on this train. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L51049/2023-10-08/detailed#allox_id=1Seems to have a stop/start trip down overnight. Late/on time/late. Why non stop at Lostwithiel I wonder. |
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« Reply #1791 on: October 09, 2023, 08:55:40 » |
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If it had power problems, it's probably to get a run up the hill out of Lostwithiel. |
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8 Billion people on a wet rock - of course we're not happy
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« Reply #1792 on: October 09, 2023, 10:14:43 » |
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It's not Wednesday, is it? If it had power problems, it's probably to get a run up the hill out of Lostwithiel. |
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« Reply #1793 on: October 14, 2023, 10:43:45 » |
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Another good You Tube review from the excellent Scot, Steve Marsh - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkFG9-nHMh0Spoiler alert - a satisfied customer, notwithstanding the passenger lounge at Penzance being closed, and considered it better than the Caledonian Sleeper too. |
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« Reply #1794 on: October 14, 2023, 11:45:33 » |
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Yes, he's comparing it very favourably with the Caledonian Sleeper: a 'Simple' product well delivered and not sold as an experience in itself.
From his video, design, lighting, colour, ambience and surfaces cleaning including exterior glass looks to be very well handled on board the night riviera and he gives the favourable impression that given the general hush and lack of vibration, he wasn't particularly aware that the sleeper was moving.
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« Reply #1795 on: October 15, 2023, 21:19:58 » |
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I plan to be travelling on the Night Riviera at the end of this month (October 2023).
I'm much heartened to see that dogs are now permitted to travel in the GWR▸ sleeper berths for an additional £30. Previously they were only permitted to travel in a pet carrier in the guards van.
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« Reply #1796 on: October 24, 2023, 23:05:30 » |
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« Reply #1797 on: October 25, 2023, 11:51:41 » |
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I plan to be travelling on the Night Riviera at the end of this month (October 2023).
I'm much heartened to see that dogs are now permitted to travel in the GWR▸ sleeper berths for an additional £30. Previously they were only permitted to travel in a pet carrier in the guards van.
What happens if the dog needs needs to relieve itself ? Cant really take it outside on a train. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1798 on: October 25, 2023, 12:30:59 » |
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I plan to be travelling on the Night Riviera at the end of this month (October 2023).
I'm much heartened to see that dogs are now permitted to travel in the GWR▸ sleeper berths for an additional £30. Previously they were only permitted to travel in a pet carrier in the guards van.
What happens if the dog needs needs to relieve itself ? Cant really take it outside on a train. Dangle him out of the window? (preferably rear end first) |
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« Reply #1799 on: October 25, 2023, 15:54:11 » |
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What happens if the dog needs needs to relieve itself ? Cant really take it outside on a train.
Several 5+ minute stops en route. |
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