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« Reply #1605 on: December 31, 2020, 15:55:19 » |
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Now extended for a further week Night Riviera Sleeper service
The sleeper service between London Paddington and Penzance will not run until Sunday 10 January. |
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« Reply #1606 on: December 31, 2020, 17:16:24 » |
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This makes complete sense considering the current restrictions on travel. I doubt if it return until there is a distinct improvement to the Covid situation
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« Reply #1607 on: January 01, 2021, 19:41:00 » |
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« Reply #1608 on: January 02, 2021, 08:54:19 » |
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« Reply #1609 on: January 02, 2021, 20:23:23 » |
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Oh *that* sort of headboard.... I was thinking bunks, too! |
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« Reply #1610 on: January 10, 2021, 08:17:42 » |
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Night Riviera was due to resume tonight - but both trips cancelled. 21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04
21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew. 23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:49
23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:49 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew. |
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« Reply #1611 on: January 10, 2021, 09:46:42 » |
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Night Riviera was due to resume tonight - but both trips cancelled. 21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04
21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew. 23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:49
23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:49 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew. I suspect that had it run it would only have been the crew on board anyway. |
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« Reply #1612 on: January 26, 2021, 11:20:23 » |
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The recent announcement of a 30 strong fleet of tri-mode Class 93 locomotives might well offer a perfect replacement for the ageing Class 57s in a couple of years? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_93_(Stadler)Able to run on electric power where the wires have been strung, and also having enough grunt where the wires run out in their diesel/battery hybrid mode. |
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« Reply #1613 on: January 26, 2021, 12:42:30 » |
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The new tri-mode locomotives certainly SOUND a good idea, provided that they work reliably. New trains and locomotives often fail to achieve the hoped for degree of reliability.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1614 on: January 26, 2021, 12:52:15 » |
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They are heavily based on the existing diesel Class 68 and bi-mode Class 88, both of which have proven pretty reliable, though whenever you are relying on a single locomotive to power the train you are in trouble if that single source of power develops a problem.
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« Reply #1615 on: January 26, 2021, 13:40:48 » |
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Agree, it would seem prudent to use two locomotives initaily, either two of the new ones or one new and one old.
Once reliability is proven, then a single loco in the interest of economy.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #1616 on: January 26, 2021, 15:52:54 » |
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The new tri-mode locomotives certainly SOUND a good idea, provided that they work reliably. ...
They are stated as 1800bhp in diesel mode compared to 2250bhp for an HST▸ power car, 940bhp for a class 88 or 600bhp for a class 73 in diesel mode. 1550 for a 33, 2700 for a 50, 2750 for a 47, 3200 for a 67 ... sadly no data for a 57. On the Sleeper, they would be another reason for electrifying the Devon banks earlier rather than later too |
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« Reply #1617 on: January 26, 2021, 17:16:40 » |
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The 1800Hp is Hybrid mode the engine is 900Kw so 1200Hp.
That is not going to be enough with ETH as well to get from Newbury to Penzance. I think even Plymouth to Penzance would be to far.
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« Reply #1618 on: January 26, 2021, 17:25:45 » |
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The 1800Hp is Hybrid mode the engine is 900Kw so 1200Hp.
That is not going to be enough with ETH as well to get from Newbury to Penzance. I think even Plymouth to Penzance would be to far.
Aren't the numbers a rating and not an overall total though - overall total limited by fuel tank size, like in the old days steam engines were limited by coal bunker size. Which leads me to ask - if we talking horsepower, wouldn't there be a coaching in or modern equivalent to stop for fresh animal equivalents? "The Red Cow" or "Ye Olde Laira Inn"? How do the 73s cope all the way to Fort William? |
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« Reply #1619 on: January 26, 2021, 18:24:27 » |
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The 1800Hp is Hybrid mode the engine is 900Kw so 1200Hp.
That is not going to be enough with ETH as well to get from Newbury to Penzance. I think even Plymouth to Penzance would be to far.
Aren't the numbers a rating and not an overall total though - overall total limited by fuel tank size, like in the old days steam engines were limited by coal bunker size. Which leads me to ask - if we talking horsepower, wouldn't there be a coaching in or modern equivalent to stop for fresh animal equivalents? "The Red Cow" or "Ye Olde Laira Inn"? How do the 73s cope all the way to Fort William? There's some contradictions in the available data. The best I can find is this artcicle from Rail Engineer, based on an interview with ROG's CEO▸ Karl watts. That says: power from OLE▸ - 4 MW power from diesel - 900 kW power from batteries - 400 kW battery capacity - 80 kWh (can be charged from OLE or engine) weight - 86 t max train weight - 2500 t OLE only / 1500 t diesel hybrid How big a hill it can get up using its 80 kWh would need some sums to work out, but note that full discharge (or presumably charge) at full power would take all of 12 minutes. |
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