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« Reply #1290 on: September 12, 2018, 10:53:21 »
Quote from: TaplowGreen on September 12, 2018, 10:36:45
Quote from: bobm on September 12, 2018, 10:28:49
Hence why the up sleeper was terminated at Reading and passengers sent forward on a two car unit.

Now that's what I call a rude awakening!

Are you sure?   I expect that the people on board were awake long before they got to Reading ... wonder what time that was ...
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« Reply #1291 on: September 12, 2018, 10:56:07 »
Quote from: grahame on September 12, 2018, 10:53:21
Quote from: TaplowGreen on September 12, 2018, 10:36:45
Quote from: bobm on September 12, 2018, 10:28:49
Hence why the up sleeper was terminated at Reading and passengers sent forward on a two car unit.

Now that's what I call a rude awakening!

Are you sure?   I expect that the people on board were awake long before they got to Reading ... wonder what time that was ...

Arrrived Reading slightly early at 03:18 - replacement train left at 04:48 (23 minutes late).
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« Reply #1292 on: September 12, 2018, 11:04:56 »
Quote from: TaplowGreen on September 12, 2018, 10:36:45
Quote from: bobm on September 12, 2018, 10:28:49
Hence why the up sleeper was terminated at Reading and passengers sent forward on a two car unit.

Now that's what I call a rude awakening!

Though at least those on the down service alighting at Exeter, Newton Abbot and Plymouth arrived in perfect time for breakfast.   Wink
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« Reply #1293 on: September 12, 2018, 11:07:57 »
Quote from: bobm on September 12, 2018, 10:56:07
Quote from: grahame on September 12, 2018, 10:53:21
Quote from: TaplowGreen on September 12, 2018, 10:36:45
Quote from: bobm on September 12, 2018, 10:28:49
Hence why the up sleeper was terminated at Reading and passengers sent forward on a two car unit.

Now that's what I call a rude awakening!

Are you sure?   I expect that the people on board were awake long before they got to Reading ... wonder what time that was ...

Arrrived Reading slightly early at 03:18 - replacement train left at 04:48 (23 minutes late).

I'm getting confused between up and down trains.  You would think for our sake they could arrange for the up and down problems to be on different nights so we don't get mixed up!
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« Reply #1294 on: September 12, 2018, 11:12:26 »
I think the up problem was as a result of the down problem - ie they needed the loco to rescue the failed service which was blocking the line.
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« Reply #1295 on: September 12, 2018, 12:54:08 »
Or would it have been that the loco that they attach at Reading was sent down to do the rescuing, which would have meant had the up sleeper continued to Paddington, there would have been no loco to pull it back out again?
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« Reply #1296 on: September 12, 2018, 14:11:02 »
Not related to last night.

Is it really a sustainable long term solution to have the Night Riviera stock shunted to and from Reading?

Far too easy for services to be regularly terminated or started from there. Operational convenience ahead of customer service.
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« Reply #1297 on: September 12, 2018, 14:20:07 »
Quote from: bignosemac on September 12, 2018, 14:11:02
Not related to last night.


Operational convenience ahead of customer service.


The most succinct and accurate description of GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) I have yet seen...……….BNM there is a good marketing man lost in you!!!
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« Reply #1298 on: September 12, 2018, 17:23:06 »
Quote from: bignosemac on September 12, 2018, 14:11:02
Not related to last night.

Is it really a sustainable long term solution to have the Night Riviera stock shunted to and from Reading?

Far too easy for services to be regularly terminated or started from there. Operational convenience ahead of customer service.

With Old Oak Common rapidly disappearing, it is the nearest diesel depot to London unless GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) can negotiate access to the fuel lines at North Pole.  But there's also the need to tank the carriages and sort the linen.  I am not sure Hitachi would want all that going on around their site.
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« Reply #1299 on: September 12, 2018, 17:24:58 »
Quote from: bobm on September 12, 2018, 10:51:17
On the assumption the rescuing loco started the night on the front of the sleeper from Penzance I wonder if the same loco has ever brought the down sleeper back into Penzance the next morning.

I believe it was the one that started the night on the rear at Paddington and would have been needed from Paddington to depot. They terminated at Reading so the depot shunter can bring the stock in.
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« Reply #1300 on: September 12, 2018, 18:23:14 »
Quote from: Adelante_CCT on September 12, 2018, 12:54:08
Or would it have been that the loco that they attach at Reading was sent down to do the rescuing, which would have meant had the up sleeper continued to Paddington, there would have been no loco to pull it back out again?

Correct.  The sleeper stock would have occupied a platform at Paddington for the duration of the peak which would have inconvenienced far more people than those on the sleeper. 

A Turbo unit worked in place of the sleeper between Reading and Paddington. 
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« Reply #1301 on: September 12, 2018, 18:48:18 »
The 'Greenford' turbo that runs ECS▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) from Reading to Paddington anyway having done the early morning stopper from Oxford
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« Reply #1302 on: September 12, 2018, 19:19:15 »
Quote from: a-driver on September 12, 2018, 18:23:14
The sleeper stock would have occupied a platform at Paddington for the duration of the peak which would have inconvenienced far more people than those on the sleeper. 

Especially as Platform 1 at Paddington was closed due to a signal failure for a while and platforms 4-6 affected by overhead line problems. 
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« Reply #1303 on: September 26, 2018, 06:55:16 »
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03
25/09/18 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03 is being delayed at Plymouth and is now expected to be 150 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.
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« Reply #1304 on: September 26, 2018, 08:14:28 »
Arrived only 39 late
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C40039/2018/09/25/advanced
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