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« Reply #1080 on: December 10, 2016, 00:10:05 »

Thanks for posting your question, PhilWakely, and I'm rather surprised that you haven't already had a reply, here on the Coffee Shop forum.

I've therefore given your query something of a 'bump', simply by splitting it off from our 'ongoing issues with the night sleeper' topic in 'Across the West' and putting it here.

Can anyone help with this question, please?

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« Reply #1081 on: December 10, 2016, 06:28:45 »

I'm on the sleeper tomorrow, Tuesday and Wednesday nights so I should remember to look one on one of those journeys!  Grin
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« Reply #1082 on: December 10, 2016, 07:20:50 »

One set has the new refurbished coach, the other a unrefurbished coach. Also due to one set having an unscheduled reversal a while back, although the seating is Penzance end the actual carriages are back to front throughout.

I'm not aware of a carriage plan anywhere onlinr
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« Reply #1083 on: December 15, 2016, 15:51:45 »

A poster on Railforums has created this file from his observations. He has acknowledged some of the old coach B may not be exact as parts of the numbers had peeled off so he recorded what was visible

image credit to Spark001uk (Railforums.co.uk)

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« Reply #1084 on: December 15, 2016, 21:19:25 »

That looks like a massive toilet on the refurb coach B. Does it have multiple cubicles and wash basins?
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« Reply #1085 on: December 16, 2016, 16:19:30 »

No its just the required accessible toilet.
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« Reply #1086 on: December 17, 2016, 07:30:08 »

Last night's (dep Penzance on 16th Dec, for avoidance of doubt) up train left nearly 3 hrs late, skipped all the Cornish stops, and is now forming 1B10 on arrival at Paddington, rather than going empty as 5A40 to Old Oak.  This suggests an HST (High Speed Train) set has substituted.
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« Reply #1087 on: December 17, 2016, 07:39:58 »

It was indeed substituted.

Fitters unable to fix an unspecified fault on the sleeper set.
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« Reply #1088 on: December 17, 2016, 07:43:10 »

57603 lack of power. HST (High Speed Train) subbed.

Will probably result in some ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) over the weekend as both sets will be at Penzance, and with the depot works there isn't room for one set let alone two, with the single set normally using the siding just outside the station!

I can't see a cancelled HST service this morning neither as we are now a HST short at Penzance .

As for 1B10 I'm not sure that's right, the sleeper HST arrived into platform 8, 1B10 is platform 10. 1B15 is the next movement out of 8.
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« Reply #1089 on: December 17, 2016, 07:45:56 »

I was lucky then. Had three uneventful sleeper trips behind 57603 this week.
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« Reply #1090 on: December 17, 2016, 09:07:24 »


As for 1B10 I'm not sure that's right, the sleeper HST (High Speed Train) arrived into platform 8, 1B10 is platform 10. 1B15 is the next movement out of 8.
I was just deducing this from the TrainDescriptions on the Paddington map of Open Train Times. 1A40 in an arrival berth (can't recall which platform - might have been 8, 9 or 10), and 1B10 in the departure berth of the same platform.  It could easily have changed later, before departure - I didn't stay watching it.
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« Reply #1091 on: December 17, 2016, 09:10:21 »

Quite a few changes this morning at Paddington following a fatality at Southall.

Also delayed the stock for the steam excursion to the West Somerset getting from Southall to Victoria.  Left Victoria nearly an hour late but has a couple of pathing stops so should make a lot of that up.
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« Reply #1092 on: December 17, 2016, 11:15:11 »

Long Rock to Old Oak Common via Penzance scheduled for 12 noon for the ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) stock and either 57604/5 as both came down last night for such a purpose. 3 x 57s at Penzance this morning.
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« Reply #1093 on: December 17, 2016, 12:09:43 »

57603 lack of power. HST (High Speed Train) subbed.

Will probably result in some ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) over the weekend as both sets will be at Penzance, and with the depot works there isn't room for one set let alone two, with the single set normally using the siding just outside the station!

I can't see a cancelled HST service this morning neither as we are now a HST short at Penzance .

As for 1B10 I'm not sure that's right, the sleeper HST arrived into platform 8, 1B10 is platform 10. 1B15 is the next movement out of 8.

5A85 STP 08+15 Laira to Penzance forming 1A85 1058 Penzance to Paddington in lieu set off Long Rock.
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« Reply #1094 on: December 17, 2016, 13:06:19 »

I hope Santa isn't relying on the sleeper......then again it's a Cinderella service at the best of times so the whole thing might end up as a pantomime  (ooooooh I'm good today!)  Grin
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