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« Reply #720 on: February 09, 2015, 18:01:59 » |
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It was indeed - here it is passing Southall just after 2pm.  The original loco (57306) was in Reading Traincare depot when I passed at 4pm. |
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« Reply #721 on: February 09, 2015, 18:07:34 » |
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HST▸ "sleeper" tonight then?
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« Reply #722 on: February 09, 2015, 18:09:05 » |
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Not necessarily - the coaches seem fine and there was obviously a working 57 at the London end. It may however need the Old Oak Common 08 shunter to make an outing to drag the stock into Paddington.
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« Reply #723 on: February 09, 2015, 21:07:06 » |
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Up Sleeper this morning failed in the Thatcham area with a hot axle box on 57306. Train limped to Reading at 10mph where it terminated.
Why don't FGW▸ just admit that the 57's are rubbish and not fit for purpose? Surely the sensible solution is to use 67's instead. |
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« Reply #724 on: February 09, 2015, 21:26:11 » |
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Not necessarily - the coaches seem fine and there was obviously a working 57 at the London end. It may however need the Old Oak Common 08 shunter to make an outing to drag the stock into Paddington.
None of that DRS▸ rubbish tonight, it's a FGW▸ 57 booked to work the sleeper to Penzance so it should make it without a hitch!! |
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« Reply #725 on: February 09, 2015, 22:59:06 » |
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Not necessarily - the coaches seem fine and there was obviously a working 57 at the London end. It may however need the Old Oak Common 08 shunter to make an outing to drag the stock into Paddington.
None of that DRS▸ rubbish tonight, it's a FGW▸ 57 booked to work the sleeper to Penzance so it should make it without a hitch!! And 57604 on the up, should be a good night! 57604 did a trouble free ECS▸ penzance to Laira and back today |
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« Reply #726 on: February 18, 2015, 11:39:34 » |
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From September 2015 it is looking very likely that the sleepers will cease to be hauled by Class 57s and will be replaced by pairs of Class 67s. The delay in introducing them will allow traction training to be completed at the necessary depots.
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« Reply #727 on: February 18, 2015, 11:57:36 » |
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If their like the Chiltern ones (or indeed *are* the Chiltern ones as they're giving theirs up for 68s very soon), heaven help the sleepers. Chiltern were getting failures at least weekly, and that was only on 2 hour journeys)
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« Reply #728 on: February 18, 2015, 12:07:40 » |
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They will be working in pairs on our sleepers!
Discussions have been ongoing for several months.
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« Reply #729 on: February 18, 2015, 12:24:24 » |
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And if one fails, the other can only pull 5 coaches.....
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« Reply #730 on: February 18, 2015, 12:40:41 » |
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And if one fails, the other can only pull 5 coaches.....
Eh? I've seen them pulling 12-coach trains before - the acceleration isn't up to Chiltern Mainline demands when you get to that length, but they're more than capable of hauling a train to the rather leisurely schedule of the sleeper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb432U6Ji7o |
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« Reply #731 on: February 18, 2015, 12:41:41 » |
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And if one fails, the other can only pull 5 coaches..... Eh? A single 67 can pull a whole IC225 set (nine mk4s, a mk4 DVT‡ and a class 91 electric locomotive), see this (not my pic) and this (also not my pic). |
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Don't DOO▸ it, keep the guard (but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea if the driver unlocked the doors on arrival at calling points).
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« Reply #732 on: February 18, 2015, 13:52:34 » |
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Chiltern won't put more than 5 coaches + DVT‡ up on one....
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« Reply #733 on: February 18, 2015, 14:08:45 » |
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Because of their rate of acceleration. That's why I made my comment them being perfectly adequate for the sleeper schedule with its couple of extra coaches.
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« Reply #734 on: February 18, 2015, 15:25:04 » |
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They've been to,d the 67s will work in pairs, that could mean double headed or it could mean top n tailed. I would think they will top and tail otherwise you'll need another loco at Penzance & Paddington.
Top n tail will probably mean one less driver required to shunt from the depots as well.
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