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« Reply #510 on: October 23, 2014, 19:14:39 »

Yes it is a shame they no longer detach a coach at Plymouth as they used to.

I have travelled beyond Plymouth into Cornwall and got a single ticket back just to get an extra lie in. You can still arrive in Plymouth before the first "day" train.

I remember seeing this coach with its 08 shunter, so I'm guessing the cost of crewing the shunter was the issue here?

Now the Royal Mail sidings are redundant, could the 57 not undertake the shunting itself? That way, the coach can be left in the sidings during the day and not block the running lines.
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« Reply #511 on: October 23, 2014, 21:00:21 »

It would still have to be taken out to Laira to be serviced, bedding changed, toilet tanks emptied & water tanks filled
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« Reply #512 on: December 07, 2014, 19:56:43 »

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UK (United Kingdom): TRB Lightweight Structures has been awarded a contract to supply PRM (Persons with Reduced Mobility)-TSI compliant Universal Access Toilet Modules for the refurbishment and upgrading of the sleeping cars used on First Great Western^s London ^ Penzance Night Riviera.

Combining innovative design with lightweight composite engineering, TRB^s customisable toilet module has been designed for easy retrofitting to existing vehicles.

As well as improving accessibility in line with the TSI requirements, the lighter weight of the toilet modules is expected to contribute to lower operating costs.
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« Reply #513 on: December 07, 2014, 20:07:28 »

That toilet module looks substantially larger than the existing toilets.  Will there be a reduction in berth capacity to fit these modules into the existing stock?

(Also, toilet module sounds like something one would be installing on the International Space Station, not a train)
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« Reply #514 on: December 07, 2014, 20:18:54 »

Funnily enough, I've just been watching a youtube clip of NASA astronaut Sunita Williams giving a guided tour of the ISS. The toilet facilities there seem very 'Heath Robinson' in comparison to the very high technology that keeps the ISS orbiting and the astronauts alive.

http://youtu.be/doN4t5NKW-k?t=9m9s
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« Reply #515 on: December 08, 2014, 11:30:11 »

If they are making the toilets on the sleeper compliant, are they going to do the same with the doors (either fitting internal handles or replacing them with power-operated doors)?
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« Reply #516 on: December 08, 2014, 13:18:25 »

Funnily enough, I've just been watching a youtube clip of NASA astronaut Sunita Williams giving a guided tour of the ISS. The toilet facilities there seem very 'Heath Robinson' in comparison to the very high technology that keeps the ISS orbiting and the astronauts alive.

http://youtu.be/doN4t5NKW-k?t=9m9s

For one moment there I thought we were in for a clip from The Big Bang Theory !.
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« Reply #517 on: December 08, 2014, 17:01:35 »

I think that the amount of toilets per coach will drop from 2 to 1 as a result of fitting a much larger single compartment. I doubt this will affect the size/number of the berths.

So now there will be a wheelchair friendly toilet. Great! That'll go well with the disabled friendly berth and doors that are already there.......  Wink
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« Reply #518 on: December 08, 2014, 17:03:41 »

One can only but assume that disabled berth(s) are also being fitted.
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« Reply #519 on: December 12, 2014, 21:04:04 »

Not been a good couple of nights for the sleepers.

On Thursday into Friday the Up sleeper needed fitters attention at Plymouth due to brake problems, having skipped stops in Cornwall.  It couldn't be fixed and was replaced an HST (High Speed Train) for the rest of the journey.  This meant one of the early services from Plymouth to London was cancelled.

The stock was worked on at Laira and left for London mid-afternoon but failed again shortly after leaving Plymouth and had to be hauled back to the depot.  Therefore tonight's service from London will be an HST. 

Meanwhile last night's down sleeper needed attention from the men with spanners in Devon due to brake problems but did make it to Cornwall with only a 10 minute delay.

I am using the sleepers twice in the next three weeks so that is bound to be a jinx!
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« Reply #520 on: December 13, 2014, 09:20:52 »

Problems last night too - sounds like westbound ran with a normal HST (High Speed Train) set so no beds, and eastbound had mechanical problems and a pretty hefty delay.
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« Reply #521 on: December 14, 2014, 16:35:24 »

Problems last night too - sounds like westbound ran with a normal HST (High Speed Train) set so no beds, and eastbound had mechanical problems and a pretty hefty delay.

Not been a good couple of nights for the sleepers.

On Thursday into Friday the Up sleeper needed fitters attention at Plymouth due to brake problems, having skipped stops in Cornwall.  It couldn't be fixed and was replaced an HST for the rest of the journey.  This meant one of the early services from Plymouth to London was cancelled.

The stock was worked on at Laira and left for London mid-afternoon but failed again shortly after leaving Plymouth and had to be hauled back to the depot.  Therefore tonight's service from London will be an HST. 

Meanwhile last night's down sleeper needed attention from the men with spanners in Devon due to brake problems but did make it to Cornwall with only a 10 minute delay.

I am using the sleepers twice in the next three weeks so that is bound to be a jinx!

57s... 57s... 57s...  Undecided
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« Reply #522 on: December 15, 2014, 08:30:19 »

Problems again for the westbound sleeper early Monday morning.  The service came to a stand at Exeter St Thomas and had to be taken back to St Davids where it terminated.
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« Reply #523 on: December 15, 2014, 19:17:27 »

Problems again for the westbound sleeper early Monday morning.  The service came to a stand at Exeter St Thomas and had to be taken back to St Davids where it terminated.

The up is starting from Plymouth at 2355 tonight.
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« Reply #524 on: December 15, 2014, 19:19:20 »

Hauled by 2 Power Cars, I believe.
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