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« Reply #495 on: August 08, 2014, 15:37:24 »

In this particular case the answer is closer to home - higher up this thread.  Wink

Delivery at Plymouth, so probably not!


Tonight's up-sleeper will be a HST (High Speed Train) between Penzance & Plymouth, with the sleeper starting at Plymouth.

..and terminating at Bristol Parkway.

Left Plymouth with a class 57 on each end just for good measure but one failed at Bathampton Junction.  Decision was taken to reverse the train using the one on the back to return to Bristol and use the Rhubarb curve to get to the Badminton Line.  Unfortunately the other loco then failed just after Bristol Parkway where (at 06:45) it sits awaiting assistance to be dragged back to the platform.
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« Reply #496 on: August 08, 2014, 20:12:30 »

57s used to work Cardiff to Taunton but were eventually replaced by 67s to increase reliability.  LHCS (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock) on this route no more now of course.   ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) used to use 57s on the
Welsh Government Cardiff to Holyhead but replaced them by 67s to increase reliability.

May not be directly attributable to the loco but both yesterday and today's northbound ATW Premier Services from Cardiff have not reached Holyhead.  Yesterday's was terminated at Shrewsbury (which meant no southbound one this morning) and tonight's only reached Abergavenny.   Both listed as train faults.
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« Reply #497 on: August 08, 2014, 20:14:35 »

57s used to work Cardiff to Taunton but were eventually replaced by 67s to increase reliability.  LHCS (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock) on this route no more now of course.   ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) used to use 57s on the
Welsh Government Cardiff to Holyhead but replaced them by 67s to increase reliability.

May not be directly attributable to the loco but both yesterday and today's northbound ATW Premier Services from Cardiff have not reached Holyhead.  Yesterday's was terminated at Shrewsbury (which meant no southbound one this morning) and tonight's only reached Abergavenny.   Both listed as train faults.
Tonight's problem is brake issues.  Running ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) back to Cardiff apparently.
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« Reply #498 on: August 08, 2014, 23:22:19 »

Administrator note:

Subsequent posts regarding a spate of specific failures on the Sleeper service in August 2014 have been split off into a separate topic, at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=14355.0

Chris from Nailsea. Smiley
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« Reply #499 on: September 01, 2014, 14:40:23 »

Morning all. New arrival here. 1C99 down sleepers 21/08/2014 left Paddington late for Thursday (well into the small hours of Friday) despite boarding on time.  As I was asleep until we jerked into motion I don't know what time we actually left. Judging by the piles of bedding in the lounge car there seemed to be a problem in one of the sleepers.

Anyone know what time the train actually departed and why it was delayed?

Running was very fast, rough at times, and with the usual hour at Exeter apparently cut to a couple of minutes. Right time was not regained until Hayle by my reckoning.

On the positive side 57605 achieved an end-to-end run and also returned me perfectly punctually on 1A40 Friday night 29th
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« Reply #500 on: September 01, 2014, 15:06:09 »

Welcome to the Coffee Shop forum, Gwiwer, and thanks for giving us all some useful background information when asking your question.  Smiley

Personally, I don't know the answer, but I'm sure we have other members here who can help with that one!  Cheesy
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« Reply #501 on: September 01, 2014, 15:38:37 »

Anyone know what time the train actually departed and why it was delayed?

Left 41 minutes late after fitters fixed an air conditioning fault.
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« Reply #502 on: October 07, 2014, 16:09:33 »

It looks like the deal to upgrade the Night Riviera has now been done & dusted.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/minister-to-sign-200-million-cornwall-and-isles-of-scilly-growth-deal
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« Reply #503 on: October 07, 2014, 17:37:30 »

Sadly, the one major reliability problem with the Night Riviera won't be addressed by this funding. The locomotives.

It really is time an alternative was sought for the Class 57s. They've done the job fairly well, but they are a bag of reconditioned components, with parts of them being over 40 years old.
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« Reply #504 on: October 07, 2014, 21:46:25 »

Sounds like a job for class 68 variants perhaps?
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« Reply #505 on: October 07, 2014, 21:52:11 »

Who pays for them?
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« Reply #506 on: October 22, 2014, 11:35:03 »

Just out of interest, how well used is the Night Riviera? (Both directions?)

Are all the berths/seats generally full every night or is it more heavily loaded some nights than others?

Anyone got experience of doing the full journey in a seat rather than a berth?
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« Reply #507 on: October 22, 2014, 12:36:19 »

An extra coach of sleeper berths is usually added on the westbound trip on a Friday night and comes back up on the Sunday night service from Cornwall as those two trains are usually quite busy.  The rest of the time you can quite often get a berth on the day; you can book on line til 6pm - but I wouldn't recommend just turning up on the platform unless it really is a last minute decision.  The train goes slower than the day trains which is great if you are in a bed, not so good if you are in a seat.
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« Reply #508 on: October 22, 2014, 14:34:32 »

Thanks for that - I'm often tempted to give it a go from PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) - PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) however getting turfed out on arrival at 0514 isn't really ideal!!!
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« Reply #509 on: October 22, 2014, 15:14:42 »

Yes it is a shame they no longer detach a coach at Plymouth as they used to.

I have travelled beyond Plymouth into Cornwall and got a single ticket back just to get an extra lie in. You can still arrive in Plymouth before the first "day" train.
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