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« Reply #465 on: July 05, 2014, 18:11:55 » |
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I wonder whether FGW▸ will be looking to use Class 67s or 68s in the near future?
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« Reply #466 on: July 05, 2014, 18:37:09 » |
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I do not think that providing "proper" socket outlets in sleeper cabins would be a good idea.
Since use can not be supervised I forsee the use of kettles, hair dryers, curling tongs, and other unsuitable appliances with risk of fire or other accident.
WiFi, certainly, 5 volt USB charging outlets perhaps, but unsupervised 230 volts no way.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #467 on: July 05, 2014, 20:37:48 » |
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I wonder whether FGW▸ will be looking to use Class 67s or 68s in the near future?
The 57s have a pretty poor reliability record, and at the end of the day are 1960s build, so would hope so may be 1960s build, but isn't the idea behind the 57s that they have yougner internals (I once thought they had new engines, but then somebody told me second-hand engines were fitted)? With Chiltern replacing their 67s though, using 67s does seem more likely than spending money to make the 57s more reliable. |
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« Reply #468 on: July 05, 2014, 23:50:39 » |
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I do not think that providing "proper" socket outlets in sleeper cabins would be a good idea.
Since use can not be supervised I forsee the use of kettles, hair dryers, curling tongs, and other unsuitable appliances with risk of fire or other accident.
WiFi, certainly, 5 volt USB charging outlets perhaps, but unsupervised 230 volts no way.
Unless each berth has a separate circuit breaker which will then trip when the load is too much, but yeah I can see issues with 230v which is unsupervised. |
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« Reply #469 on: July 14, 2014, 10:17:50 » |
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Chiltern are replacing the 67s because they are incredibly unreliable! Not really suitable for overnight journeys....
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« Reply #470 on: July 15, 2014, 09:39:36 » |
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Chiltern are replacing the 67s because they are incredibly unreliable! Not really suitable for overnight journeys....
I thought it was that 67s drink fuel faster than 68s, but I'm not sure enough 68s have been ordered for the sleeper to use them too. Didn't FirstGW replace the 57/3s on Cardiff-Taunton workings with 67s because the 67s were more reliable? |
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« Reply #471 on: July 15, 2014, 09:57:50 » |
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Check out the failure rtate of those Silver Trains and you'll see the problem.....
There will be enough 68s to go around - not just the 6 Chiltern have leased....
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« Reply #472 on: July 15, 2014, 15:05:31 » |
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Despite having poor reliability, I think the 67s on Chiltern are more reliable than the 57s on FGW▸ though.
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« Reply #473 on: July 15, 2014, 16:08:20 » |
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Weekly (at least) failures?
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« Reply #474 on: July 15, 2014, 16:45:32 » |
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Most nights with the 57s I think  An 08 was despatched to drag the carriages in from Paddington to the Oak the morning before last again. |
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« Reply #475 on: August 06, 2014, 09:39:19 » |
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Last night's Down sleeper..........looks like a nice lie-in for the customers!!!
23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:53 This train has been delayed between Taunton and Exeter St Davids by 163 minutes.
This is due to a broken down train.
Additional Information:
Customers waiting at stations between Plymouth and Penzance are able to travel on CrossCountry 06:28 Plymouth to Penzance service. Tickets will be vaild on this service.
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« Reply #476 on: August 06, 2014, 09:48:26 » |
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57 engine failed just before entering Whiteball Tunnel - just before Tiverton (shut down and wouldn't restart). HST▸ from 0546 EXD» - PAD» 1A73 was sent to rescue it as only loco in area was DB» 's in Riverside Yard, but had no driver until 0615. 1A73 started as a 3-car Turbo at Bedwyn. Sleeper set still at Exeter with a DRS» loco, so actually an early wakeup and set swap  |
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« Reply #477 on: August 06, 2014, 10:18:44 » |
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57 engine failed just before entering Whiteball Tunnel - just before Tiverton (shut down and wouldn't restart). HST▸ from 0546 EXD» - PAD» 1A73 was sent to rescue it as only loco in area was DB» 's in Riverside Yard, but had no driver until 0615. 1A73 started as a 3-car Turbo at Bedwyn. Sleeper set still at Exeter with a DRS» loco, so actually an early wakeup and set swap Ouch..........plenty of free bacon rolls all round I hope?  |
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« Reply #478 on: August 06, 2014, 17:04:06 » |
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Delivery at Plymouth, so probably not!
Tonight's up-sleeper will be a HST▸ between Penzance & Plymouth, with the sleeper starting at Plymouth.
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« Reply #479 on: August 06, 2014, 21:24:41 » |
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More problems with the 57s.
Time for a change of motive power
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