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« Reply #225 on: August 02, 2011, 17:23:37 »

Again, only by paying fir them!
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« Reply #226 on: August 03, 2011, 01:01:03 »

I know FGW (First Great Western) borrowed a loco to get the hst moved back into Westbury station, why couldn't have one take all the way back to London. Anyone want to consider that maybe spare loco not available rather than blaming cost (which it will already have cost to FGW in delay minutes + note I don't know if any alternative loco's were available - just giving another option)
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« Reply #227 on: August 03, 2011, 01:39:32 »

It was an EWS (English Welsh & Scottish Railway Ltd, now known as DB Schenker Rail (UK (United Kingdom))) 08 that towed it to Westbury, and with the OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) 08 not available the 57 had to shunt the coaches into pad.

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« Reply #228 on: August 03, 2011, 01:57:04 »

Are you saying that the Down sleeper coaches for Monday night were dragged into Paddington by one 57 leaving said 57 trapped on the blocks? Shame there's no run round facility on Platform 1 at Paddington.

And awaiting the other 57 to return from Westbury with the failed HST (High Speed Train)?

What's up withh OOC (Old Oak Common (depot))'s Gronk? Is it poorly?
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« Reply #229 on: August 03, 2011, 02:05:40 »

I  am sure i have seen 2 class 08's at Old Oak common
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« Reply #230 on: August 03, 2011, 11:08:25 »

The normal method of working is for one 57 to drag the stock into pad with another 57 attached dead at the rear.  That 57 then takes the train to penzance and the 57 left on the blocks returns to OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) ready to pick up the coaches in the morning. 

They are not really supposed to use the 08.  It will only be used when they are a 57 short.  One of the problems is that the 08 does not have train supply and if you are uising it in the morning then the 57 on the block will have to be kept running - which is not allowed pumping diesel fumes into the station area.  Either that or you have no train supply which means no teas coffee AC etc.
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« Reply #231 on: August 03, 2011, 20:12:06 »

I didnt realise the shore supplies had been removed at Paddington.  When did they go?
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« Reply #232 on: August 03, 2011, 20:38:54 »

Isn't there a problem with the shunters (08) aren't fitted with APWS and therefore can't go on the main line?
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« Reply #233 on: August 03, 2011, 21:48:35 »

If taht the case how come they have been working the empty stock into paddington station
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« Reply #234 on: August 04, 2011, 13:01:51 »

There has never been a shore supply at Paddington for Coaching stock.  The shore supplies are for HST (High Speed Train) which operate at a different voltage. 

The 08 is passed for the main line which it has been operating on quite regularly lately.
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« Reply #235 on: August 04, 2011, 16:44:49 »

the O8 stock have to be doublemanned on / off OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) i believe
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« Reply #236 on: August 04, 2011, 22:14:38 »

report on WNXX (Stored Unserviceable, Mainline Locos HQ All Classes) that 57309 is working the Paddington - Penzance sleeper tonight. Think 57605 is on the blocks having hauled the stock in
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« Reply #237 on: August 06, 2011, 03:31:50 »

Problems again with tonight's (Friday 5th August) Down Night Riviera.

I'm reliably informed (thanks Ollie!) that the country end Class 57 failed ay Paddington. The set had to be dragged back to Old Oak Common by a Class 08, remarshalled to put the other Class 57 on the country end then hauled back into Paddington by the shunter. What price run round point work for Platform 1 at Paddington?

It has left Paddington at 0245. 180 minutes down.

Time for yet another spirited run down the Berks & Hants methinks! Let's see if it can beat the timing for Reading - Taunton set on Monday.
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« Reply #238 on: August 06, 2011, 05:05:26 »

Wow and double wow!!!

I thought Monday night/Tuesday morning's run from Reading to Taunton was impressive at 76 minutes and 85.01mph for the start to stop average speed.

This morning the down Night Riviera has covered the 107.69 miles in 73 minutes! That's a whole minute faster than the best HST (High Speed Train) timetabled time for Reading - Taunton!

A start to stop average speed of 88.51mph.

What could make that time and speed even more impressive is the fact that Friday's down Sleeper usually has an extra carriage. Can anyone confirm the consists for last night and Monday night?

Well done again to the driver and signallers. Although again, I suspect the latter had very little to do at that time of the morning.
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« Reply #239 on: August 06, 2011, 07:47:53 »

As a matter of interest, what happened to the passengers while this was happening at Paddington? Did they go on the jaunt to Old Oak Common and back, or did they have to wait in the lounge?

Meanwhile I wouldn't have liked to be someone who was expecting to get on at Reading. Not a good place to wait for 3 hours in the middle of the night!
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