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« Reply #1050 on: October 26, 2016, 13:29:08 »

I am not 100% about drivers but the train managers on all the sleeper services are based at Exeter and work half the journey on any one shift.  In other words down from Exeter to Penzance in the morning before working a day service back to Exeter or work a service up to Paddington in the early evening and then go back to Exeter on the sleeper.

The stewards and catering staff are based at Penzance.
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« Reply #1051 on: October 26, 2016, 19:33:39 »


So the sleeper was sent on to Bristol Temple Meads, where because of engineering work on the line through Bridgwater, the loco changed ends and it came back through Bath to reach Westbury via Bathampton Junction and Bradford on Avon.

The end result was it was an hour late in Penzance.
I take it the train crew had route knowledge as it went via Bristol, etc.  A well versed crew it seems!
Would that have been the Paddington to Exeter crew, or did they change somewhere in between?

The regular train crews know all the "101" possible diversionary routes.
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« Reply #1052 on: November 04, 2016, 14:14:52 »

First post Smiley and on something that I love using when I can. I agree with the comments about the new seats on the night Riviera. It's almost as if they are expecting to be able to use the carriages elsewhere when not used for overnight runs. That would explain the high density seating I suppose which is hardly conducive to sleep. I've done the seated sleeper once and found it quite comfortable, I was sitting at a table with two other people.

As to the new daytime config I have no idea why that's been introduced. I only know of one time the sleeper was used as a daytime train and that was to Oxford when FGW (First Great Western) (as they were at the time) found they didn't have an HST (High Speed Train) to do the journey. http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/yourtown/oxford/4886488.display/ On that occasion the sleeper berths were all locked and it probably wouldn't work having the NR» (Network Rail - home page) doing the journey when the new trains are running. I doubt the NR being loco hauled could keep to the timetabled running of a Class 8xx. So unless they're moving into the charter business during the day....
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« Reply #1053 on: November 04, 2016, 14:25:36 »

Thanks.

Does anyone know why the sleeper compartments have been given a day time configuration.  Surely that only makes sense on long continental journeys where the occupants will be awake some of the time.  For journeys lasting from 11:30pm to 7am (or thereabouts) why would you need anything other than a bed?

Are the beds made up by an attendant en route or are they already beds when you board at Paddington or Penzance? As the boarding time is relatively early at the starting points, many people may not want to get straight into bed, so presumably the 'daytime' configuration is to allow those folk somewhere comfy to sit before they're ready to sleep?

As far as I know all the berths are made up at the depot and then only the ones in use that night are unlocked for passenger occupation. Whilst a 21:45 departure from Penzance is far earlier than from Paddington I can't imagine anyone wanting their berth in daytime config. I've just spotted that on the CRS link it does say daytime running so maybe this is for some new GWR (Great Western Railway) venture into charter trains. Or maybe they've found a use for the train outside of the overnight runs.
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« Reply #1054 on: November 04, 2016, 14:43:44 »

Welcome to the forum 1st fan.  Smiley
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« Reply #1055 on: November 04, 2016, 14:58:45 »

Thank you!
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« Reply #1056 on: November 04, 2016, 17:05:09 »

1st fan, to add to your point of you being unaware of day time services, it is used in service summer Saturdays day time to boost services through cornwall to Exeter
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« Reply #1057 on: November 04, 2016, 21:05:27 »

Any excuse to dig out a photo....

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« Reply #1058 on: November 04, 2016, 23:40:32 »

Is that a 57 moving under its own power ! or perhaps photoshoped, or propelled by a steamer on the back of the train.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
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« Reply #1059 on: November 05, 2016, 08:40:52 »

Can honestly say of the 700 or so photos I have posted here not one has been photoshopped - simply because I have never taken the time to learn how to do it - despite several tips and encouragement from bignosemac.

For the record the photo was taken late afternoon on the 21st June 2014.
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« Reply #1060 on: November 05, 2016, 09:02:20 »

Can honestly say of the 700 or so photos I have posted here not one has been photoshopped - simply because I have never taken the time to learn how to do it - despite several tips and encouragement from bignosemac.

For the record the photo was taken late afternoon on the 21st June 2014.

I've over 2000 photos on Flickr and all are as taken. I haven't a clue how to edit, I've tried once or twice and made a mess so deleted!
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« Reply #1061 on: November 05, 2016, 09:35:53 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) Night Riviera stock in the (non-photoshopped) Land of the Midnight Sun  Cheesy   October 2016

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« Reply #1062 on: November 05, 2016, 10:30:19 »

1st fan, to add to your point of you being unaware of day time services, it is used in service summer Saturdays day time to boost services through cornwall to Exeter
Interesting thank you I wasn't aware of that. I assume (looking at the photographs posted) that it's just the seated coaches and not the sleeper carriages that are used?
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« Reply #1063 on: November 05, 2016, 10:35:40 »

1st fan, to add to your point of you being unaware of day time services, it is used in service summer Saturdays day time to boost services through cornwall to Exeter
Interesting thank you I wasn't aware of that. I assume (looking at the photographs posted) that it's just the seated coaches and not the sleeper carriages that are used?

Indeed!
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« Reply #1064 on: November 05, 2016, 16:00:35 »

1st fan, to add to your point of you being unaware of day time services, it is used in service summer Saturdays day time to boost services through cornwall to Exeter
Interesting thank you I wasn't aware of that. I assume (looking at the photographs posted) that it's just the seated coaches and not the sleeper carriages that are used?

Although some strange window spacing in the first and third vehicles so they are clearly not standard mk3 coaches - anyone know what's in there?
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