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« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2010, 22:27:52 »

Advance Sleeper Solo includes travel and a solo berth air-conditioned cabin with Volo TV (Thames Valley), toiletries pack, complimentary light breakfast with tea or coffee and access to a dedicated Customer Host.

Sleeper passengers also have access to a dedicated Lounge Car with at seat service of food and drink.

On arrival at Paddington, Sleeper passengers can have access to the First Class Lounge.

Not bad for ^49.00, eh?
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« Reply #106 on: August 06, 2010, 02:22:44 »

cheaper than the blinkin travel lodge - just looked and if I can get it for that or close as soon as the fares are released then including an advance to penzance - its actually cheaper than the advance to paddington plus a hotel
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« Reply #107 on: August 06, 2010, 02:58:43 »

As far as I can see there are 3 tiers of quota controlled Advance Solo Sleeper tickets at ^49.00, ^74.00 and ^99.00. These prices are the same no matter which starting station you chose. There are no railcard discounts on the Advance Solo Sleeper fares.

The walk-up fare from PNZ would be ^47.50, Super Off Peak Single (SSS) for travel plus ^45.00 for the berth, totalling ^92.50. You can get a railcard discount on the travel ticket making it ^31.35 plus ^45.00 (no discount on the berth price) totalling ^86.35.

From PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) the SSS is ^41.50 (^27.40) plus ^45.00 for the berth. Totalling ^86.50 (^72.40).

As you can see, should the cheapest Advance Solo Sleeper fares be unavailable you can potentially get a better deal than the higher tiers by buying the SSS + Berth tickets. Even better if you still have your railcard. But if your plans are fixed then you just need to wait for the booking horizon for your date of travel to open and you should have no problem bagging the ^49 inclusive fare.

The highest tier Advance Solo Sleeper at ^99 is more expensive than the walk-up+berth fare from any point on the Sleeper route. Yet another fares anomaly that could catch out the unwary!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #108 on: August 06, 2010, 14:56:33 »

The walk-up fare from PNZ would be ^47.50, Super Off Peak Single (SSS) for travel plus ^45.00 for the berth, totalling ^92.50. You can get a railcard discount on the travel ticket making it ^31.35 plus ^45.00 (no discount on the berth price) totalling ^86.35.

That's an unbelievably good deal for a walk-up fare over that distance and a night's accommodation! I had no idea that the sleeper was such good value. Starting to think that one of these days I'm going to have to find an excuse to use it, although given my current location that could take a bit of doing. If anyone spots any scientific conferences coming up in Penzance I could even get my boss to pay for it... Wink
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« Reply #109 on: August 06, 2010, 19:29:49 »

Ignoramus here:  from where can you buy Advance Solo Sleeper tickets?
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« Reply #110 on: August 06, 2010, 19:51:27 »

I don't know if you can purchase them online (worth a try, but I never have), although you can certainly get them by calling the nice people at FGW (First Great Western) telesales on 08457 000 125.
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« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2010, 20:40:21 »

Yes, available online from FGW (First Great Western)'s website. That's where I dug up the fare's info. You can also buy them from thetrainline (if you really want to pay the additional 'booking' fees!), but not from other TOCs (Train Operating Company) websites.
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« Reply #112 on: August 07, 2010, 12:07:23 »

departs penzance just before 10pm so a very reasonable time, pick it up somewhere in cornwall for a decent amount sleep
Em leaves 21.15 0n a Sunday, but that can change from December. Also has been known to Start from Plymouth if Engineering works on in Cornwall. When does the Big work on Royal Albert Bridge start?

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« Reply #113 on: August 07, 2010, 18:59:22 »

Grin   Grin   Grin

Thank you all SO much for this!

My family now have a birthday present to give me!  I have managed to secure (through split ticketing) two advanced first class tickets: BAW - EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) - PNZ for a total of ^39.00 and then the solo sleeper back in the evening for ^49.00.  I call that a right result.
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« Reply #114 on: August 07, 2010, 21:43:08 »

When is the timetable change announced?  Before or after the fare release?
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« Reply #115 on: August 07, 2010, 23:12:03 »

New timetable will start on 12th December. Fares increase should be 2nd January 2011.
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« Reply #116 on: August 08, 2010, 00:59:09 »

New timetable will start on 12th December. Fares increase should be 2nd January 2011.
Note there is also a fare change this year in September.
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« Reply #117 on: August 08, 2010, 01:16:11 »

You're right Ollie. September has previously seen tinkering with restrictions and unregulated fares. January is when the RPI (Revenue Protection Inspector, or Retail Price Index, depending on context)+1% formula for regulated fares is enacted.
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« Reply #118 on: August 08, 2010, 01:19:49 »

... or, as has been suggested elsewhere, a new '10% plus (and never mind what RPI (Revenue Protection Inspector, or Retail Price Index, depending on context) is!)' formula.  Shocked Roll Eyes
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« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2010, 14:31:58 »

I never realised a berth was this cheap, especially considering berth supplements include refreshments in the lounge and breakfast ... certainly needs more advertisement.

There are some excellent photographs on The Man in Seat 61.

Never been on a sleeper train before ... might just need to pop down to PNZ some time in the future Cheesy
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