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« on: June 13, 2009, 03:40:36 »

Decided to head to Cornwall later on today...

As it is a weekend instead of buying a Walkup First Ticket, I plan to buy a Standard Class ticket and upgrade to FC(resolve) using Weekend First.

However, as I have never bought a Weekend First Upgrade, I am unsure of the procedure of obtaining said upgrade.

My question is, is it acceptable to buy the Standard Class ticket and then sit in First Class and pay the upgrade when the TM(resolve) arrives? If not, what is the procedure. As I would be mildly annoyed if I got excessed to a First Day Single for having the wrong class ticket when I have full intentions to upgrade Grin

Also is it possible to buy the upgrade at a ticket office?

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 05:16:25 »

i guess we have both been awake all night, ive had the same thought there are plenty of posters and leaflets none of with bring up what to do, maybee we are over thinking about this? one option would to be get on at the buffet car and ask them if they tell you to sit in first you got comeback if its wrong
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 07:01:48 »

Yes you can buy a weekend 1st upgrade at the ticket office if purchasing a walk up ticket or purchase on board the train when the train manager checks your ticket. Advance ticket holders can only purchasse on board subject to weekend 1st accomodation being available.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 00:04:41 »

Just for clarity on this...

The prices vary between XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)), FGW (First Great Western) and SWT (South West Trains)

The ticket office tell you to buy the upgrade on the train...!

I was told just to sit in First Class and when the TM(resolve) came round, ask for upgrade... When they did come round, this was provided without any issue or frowning whatsoever...! Infact they seemed pleased to offer me Weekend First Grin

However I think it is a little confusing... Taunton - Plymouth on XC is ^10 and ^5 with FGW... Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 09:24:55 »

The ticket offices always tell you to buy on the train as their argument is that there may not be any space left in FC(resolve)
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 17:55:58 »

Some of the 1st class advance fares are an absolute bargain, and well worth looking out - more often than you might think they're also the cheapest advance purchase option for a journey as well. I guess this is because people see "first class" and automatically assume it will be expensive.

Going back to purchasing weekend first from a booking office, I read one of Barry Doe's columns a little while ago which said that it was possible to purchase a through point-to-point WF upgrade for a multi-TOC (Train Operating Company) journey by just paying the highest individual supplement, so to take an extreme example you could travel from Penzance to Dundee via London, using FGW (First Great Western) and NXEC (National Express East Coast) and buy a weekend first upgrade for the entire journey by paying whichever the higher supplement of the two would be.

Whether this still applies or you'd ever be able to get a booking clerk who could actually issue the ticket I have no idea...
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 18:07:22 »

Some of the 1st class advance fares are an absolute bargain, and well worth looking out - more often than you might think they're also the cheapest advance purchase option for a journey as well. I guess this is because people see "first class" and automatically assume it will be expensive.

Going back to purchasing weekend first from a booking office, I read one of Barry Doe's columns a little while ago which said that it was possible to purchase a through point-to-point WF upgrade for a multi-TOC (Train Operating Company) journey by just paying the highest individual supplement, so to take an extreme example you could travel from Penzance to Dundee via London, using FGW (First Great Western) and NXEC (National Express East Coast) and buy a weekend first upgrade for the entire journey by paying whichever the higher supplement of the two would be.

Whether this still applies or you'd ever be able to get a booking clerk who could actually issue the ticket I have no idea...
Yes that still applies.  However you have to make a reservtion for the whole journey at the same time.  This is so a portion of the upgrade can be correctly allocated to the relevant TOC
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 18:14:19 »

what happens if you go from taunton to paignton on fgw on a standard walk up standard fair valid on all services on this route and then upgrade... could you catch an xc train home again? is the upgrade even valid both ways?
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 19:22:56 »

You pay a seperate upgrade fare for outward and return... XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Charge ^10 between Taunton & Plymouth, FGW (First Great Western) Charge ^5

And the TM(resolve) will prefer if you buy from the ticket office as that is one less job for them!  Grin Also, it gives you priority over the passengers already on the train as you have paid first.

Correct... I did try to get it at the ticket office on both the outward and return... But they told me to get on, sit in FC(resolve) and pay when the TM arrived. Sort of sets the wrong impression really, do that on a weekday and you would get shot...! However I knew the TM on the XC Service down to Plymouth. So he was more than happy to offer me an upgrade Grin

In all honesty I would have much prefered to upgrade at the ticket office when buying my ticket... Shows your not trying to fare dodge Grin

I didn't book advanced because I didn't know when I was coming back, looking at the delays of 3+ hours I encountered... That was a wise decision Wink
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 16:33:47 »

The upgrade is only valid one way, and is not valid on any other TOC (Train Operating Company).  The ticket is for the journey and valid for any TOC, the 1st class WEEKEND upgrade is a "bolt on" that is only for FGW (First Great Western) (however, it will cover you for other FGW trains if you have to change in the same journey)

Thanks for that, I was wondering the exact same thing the other day... Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 17:27:11 »

Isn't it tempting to do Taunton - Plymouth alighting at each station for an hour  Cheesy ^5 well spent and lots of tea and coffee.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2009, 18:15:49 »

Hi folks
Could any TM(resolve)/Guards on here comment on the loadings in First Class since new pricing structure introduced ?  Shocked
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2009, 18:17:54 »

When I travelled Castle Cary - Newton Abbot, all tables were taken up in H until at least Exeter. (1706 pad - ply)
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2009, 18:33:36 »

Paradoxically I find it as busy if not busier than before.

It has not been pushed much by TM(resolve) for a good few years.  However with the increases most have made the effort to advise passengers of the new rates so passengers do not get an unexpected shock when asekd for the higher amount.  So people who never knew about it before as now using it.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2009, 19:36:16 »

The weekend First from Worcester to London is ^15 by the looks of it.

Can I sit in Standard until Oxford, and then upgrade for ^5?

Do you get free refreshments on a Turbo with Weekend First? (on a Sunday)
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