Most Wanted Improvements

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[moonrakerz]

Just a little bit more legroom on the 158/159s through Warminster !  (I'm only 6' !!)

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

Just a little bit more legroom on the 158/159s through Warminster !  (I'm only 6' !!)

Hehe there are three fold down seats with plenty of leg room in the centre of the unit bit noisy tho

[tramway]

Compared with XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) Voyagers it has to be all First Class already.

[thetrout]

Just a little bit more legroom on the 158/159s through Warminster !  (I'm only 6' !!)

Hehe there are three fold down seats with plenty of leg room in the centre of the unit bit noisy tho

Not the most comfortable either...!

[devon_metro]

It won't get done until the trains are longer.

[eightf48544]

As some of you will know, I am currently conducting some research, and I think its time I asked the opinion of forum members in general:

If you could pick one improvement above all others that you would like to see - what would it be?

You dont have to restrict it to the timetable - anything related to the overall travelling experience will do. Also, I'd very much like to hear views from the staff side as well as the passenger side.

This is a very difficult question to answer.

Obviously one of the major concerns to most people is more and possibly longer trains on many routes within the West however FGW^▸ (First Great Western) is so short of units that it's only by robbing Peter to pay Paul that someone gets an imporoved service whilst someone loses out, so it's bit like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Spare DMUS don't appear overnight.

Refurbs unfortunately whilst many may not like whats happened to particualr units we're more or less stuck with it, until the next refurb.

So I think fare simplification is possibly be the only area that can be tackle as it doesn't involve extra units, staff or infrastructure.

Personnaly I would like to see the London Zonal extended to at least all metropolitan areas so that all local public transport rail, bus, trams is covered by one ticket.  Ideally the whole country should be divided up into fare zones as Germany and Holland.

The fare zones  should include local rail fare as well. Long distance railfares would still be National, but with cheaper walk on and higher advanced fares.

This could mean that there may be an IC^▸ (Inter City) fare and a regional fare between two points. With a choice of a fast IC or stopping regional trains. As pr Germany where it was 35 Euros from Berlin to Dresdden on an IC/EC and 58 euro for 5! on the slower RE^▸ (Religious Education) with a change.

If there were more ICs running further between stops with a following Regional stopping train then many of the problems of local pasengers doing short journies on an IC would be solved. Especialy as the fare would be higher.

However, the problem with running both IC and Regional trains following one another in say Cornwall is you'd probably need more units and more infrastructure (signal sections). So not a short term solution.

So possibly picking up something else from the thread better carriage cleaning inside and out.

Sorry Lee can't think of any easy low cost quick solutions.

[TerminalJunkie]

Frankly, I dont care if people have to stand or are cramped if I can travel in comfort

I wonder why some people dislike first class ticket holders...? 

[Mookiemoo]

Frankly, I dont care if people have to stand or are cramped if I can travel in comfort

I wonder why some people dislike first class ticket holders...? 

Envy

[Btline]

Why are people saying the Waterloo route should be given priority?

Rubbish. Max speed of 100 mph. It won't be overhead wires if it gets electrified.

Absolutely choc-o-block. Bottlenecks at Woking, Clapham, Waterloo.....

It requires reversals, unless the route via Oakhampton is restored  - something I SUPPORT. But as a SECONDARY ROUTE only.

It also misses out the important station of Reading, the most important interchange. In fact the whole route is rather isolated from the rest of the network.

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Why are people saying the Waterloo route should be given priority?

Rubbish. Max speed of 100 mph. It won't be overhead wires if it gets electrified.

Absolutely choc-o-block. Bottlenecks at Woking, Clapham, Waterloo.....

It requires reversals, unless the route via Oakhampton is restored  - something I SUPPORT. But as a SECONDARY ROUTE only.

It also misses out the important station of Reading, the most important interchange. In fact the whole route is rather isolated from the rest of the network.

waterloo, while i admit would cost alot in track realignmet could take more trains, woking i cant comment on, clapham now that would be a headache
reversals... whats the most this will add 5 mins? paignton trains do it all the time from exmouth

okehampton now i would love to see this reopen all the way to plymouth but that isnt going to provide a high speed service by going the long way round, best way is to avoid st davids and use central as the main station build a link from central onto the cornish mainline facing plymouth

i think the only stupid thing about what i am saying is the cost and for this reason it wont happen

[Btline]

Firstly, I expect few passengers travel from Exmouth to Paignton.

Reversing a larger train takes longer than a DMU^▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit).

And you still haven't solved the problem of 100 mph to Waterloo.

And Clapham is a bottleneck to stay. There is no way of any major improvements, as they can't disrupt the trains every 13 seconds during the rush hour!

And the connexions on the Woeml are bad compared to the GWML^▸ (Great Western Main Line).

[thetrout]

Double Tracking Weston-Super-Mare would be a much more viable option as it can cause serious delays to Fast Services Between BRI^» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains) - TAU^» (Taunton - next trains)

[RailCornwall]

Much more point work and the relevant signalling on the network west of Exeter so that rolling stock breakdowns and infrastructure issues can be bypassed quicker and in addition possessions reduced.

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it wont happen anyway i think both routes should be improved but if i had to pick one money no object then its west of england ... would ease overcrowding on the taunton route

anyway thats what i want i know it has flaws but it also has bonuses im not saying your right or wrong because i know some of what i have said is just silly

[Btline]

The Woeml defo needs money spent. So it is a fully double tracked, 100 mph railway to act as a secondary route, and for local passengers.