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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2009, 21:55:20 » |
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please be on barny lol i wonder if the onboard passender info system and auto anouncements will work
Should be ok for Portsmouth to Salisbury and Salisbury to Bristol - even if they have to stop at a few extra stations for accuracy...  Bit risky for FGW▸ though, pax could start asking when the FGW trains are going to be refurbished, when they see an SWT▸ one, with things like drop down tables?  Paul |
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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 22:07:02 » |
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Bit risky for FGW▸ though, pax could start asking when the FGW trains are going to be refurbished, when they see an SWT▸ one, with things like drop down tables? Paul They could even offer 1st class! though I suspect 1st will be declassified when in use for FGW as every seat is needed. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2009, 22:09:37 » |
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i didnt think of that! lets be honest with perhaps the exception of the hst fleet (i prefer the 159's) these are better than anything fgw has... i hope they look after them! lol
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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2009, 22:37:10 » |
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Are FGW▸ trains internally still ok now they have been refubrihsed, in terms of decor and fittings?
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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2009, 22:54:12 » |
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ok break down of refurb
the 142's actually have these been refurbed.... moving on
the 143's look good seats are comfortable too early to see of the quality will last end of the day you can put a turbo in a nova,,, its still not a merc
the 150's looked great when done but are already ageing is this build quality or amount of use... most fgw services are packed i gotta be honest cleaning doesnt seem to be a priority maybee thats it
the hst's apart from the seating arrangement and lighting there ok look good, astetic point the powercar should have the dynamic lines livey not just blue but they still look good shame the seats are uncomfortable
158 cant comment from what i have seen externally they already look tired
best refurb is the 153's! only let down by uncomfortable seats
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« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2009, 23:11:51 » |
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i didnt think of that! lets be honest with perhaps the exception of the hst fleet (i prefer the 159's) these are better than anything fgw has... i hope they look after them! lol
The SWT▸ refurb is no better than the fgw one. It just so happens that swt have hundreds of units in Salisbury cleaning depot. The fgw ones are all a bodge but much better than the state they were in under Wessex. Those ex Alphaline 158s make me cringe how awful they were! |
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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2009, 23:31:55 » |
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ive not been on a fgw 158 but heard horror storys, i dont know what the swt 158's are like im guessing there the same as the 159's they are comfortable clean good seating arangements underfloor engines do not spoil the journey air con works toilets dont smell ...
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2009, 00:19:08 » |
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Whats causing the issues with FGWs▸ on 158s, thought they were addressed during refurb?
i am led to believe it is engines giving up,something that was not addressed on refresh.in fact refresh was basically painting and new carpets,seat covers. The Engines are changed as are bogies wheel sets etc at specified intervals and tolerances on a rolling basis |
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2009, 12:32:40 » |
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Lee I think they could be anything, I heard this last night as well, and possible reasons for their arrival, choose from either:
1 - they are to replace 150^s going back to ATW▸
2 ^ with the current state of FGW▸ 158^s they are desperate for anything that runs.
I go with the latter if recent experience is anything to go by. Anyone know how many 158/9^s are currently 2 car?
Your wrong then! The 158/9 is coming out to play vice an ATW 150/2 which is required back for the Grumbly gasworks network. FGW drivers are receiving a phamplet on the differences between a SWT▸ 158 and the FGW version. The SWT 158/9 has had the same modifications as the 159/0's and /1's and all FGW drivers that sign 158's sign 158798. Therefore anyone for a 159 should the need arise? |
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2009, 12:35:57 » |
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ive not been on a fgw 158 but heard horror storys, i dont know what the swt 158's are like im guessing there the same as the 159's they are comfortable clean good seating arangements underfloor engines do not spoil the journey air con works toilets dont smell ...
You want to stop listening to those horror stories then and ride the product before commenting! Have worked several FGW▸ 158's lately and they all seem to have performed to specification. Even the Aircon. And the new cab air coolers are working well on the ones tried so far. |
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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2009, 14:05:39 » |
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ive not been on a fgw 158 but heard horror storys, i dont know what the swt 158's are like im guessing there the same as the 159's they are comfortable clean good seating arangements underfloor engines do not spoil the journey air con works toilets dont smell ...
You want to stop listening to those horror stories then and ride the product before commenting! Have worked several FGW▸ 158's lately and they all seem to have performed to specification. Even the Aircon. And the new cab air coolers are working well on the ones tried so far. Well to be fair I havnt been on one but the fact that so many on the forum bring it up and I've been at Bristol and heard I'm sorry to anounce the following has been cancled look across oh look a 158 yes your correct not all units are the same some work some don't but in general customers dwell on the bad points and don't always praise the good, on average if someone has a bad experiance they will tell nine people a good experiance one if your lucky so that added with most peoples hate for these units ( not mine) what's wrong with underfloor engines? I don't think it's wrong of me to clearly state that others have not been impressed but I have not witnessed them......... |
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2009, 14:14:54 » |
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ive not been on a fgw 158 but heard horror storys, i dont know what the swt 158's are like im guessing there the same as the 159's they are comfortable clean good seating arangements underfloor engines do not spoil the journey air con works toilets dont smell ...
You want to stop listening to those horror stories then and ride the product before commenting! Have worked several FGW▸ 158's lately and they all seem to have performed to specification. Even the Aircon. And the new cab air coolers are working well on the ones tried so far. Went to Salisbury and back the other day: very hot outside, nice and cool inside - no complaints. |
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2009, 15:00:27 » |
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2009, 15:02:43 » |
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Had the same on an XC▸ HST▸ not so long ago and it was at the time one of the hottest days of the year  Also happened on a voyager last week |
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