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« on: June 03, 2009, 12:59:18 »

Not sure if this is new or not.

Staff have been briefed on the differences (SWT (South West Trains) have fitted a revised direction switch and other minor differnces in cab controls), to allow one unit to be hired in daily.
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 13:07:18 »

Any news on resulting diagram changes?
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2009, 15:34:51 »

Lee I think they could be anything, I heard this last night as well, and possible reasons for their arrival, choose from either:

1 - they are to replace 150^s going back to ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company)))
2 ^ with the current state of FGW (First Great Western) 158^s they are desperate for anything that runs.

I go with the latter if recent experience is anything to go by. Anyone know how many 158/9^s are currently 2 car?
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2009, 18:23:01 »

just the one at present 158952 although thats due to be reformed.

i would hazard a guess the swt set is to displace a set from elsewhere for weymouth strengthening over summer.

i have not heard about any of the atw sets going back but it is always a possibility.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2009, 18:35:55 »

Oh god, 158952. What an awful unit. 100% Richmond seating!
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 21:46:54 »

Nice to see two rival companies transport companies First and Stagecoach working together to provide a solution to FGW (First Great Western) rolling stock shortage problems. It shows that FGW are doing their best to provide as much rolling stock as possible for the busy summer period when additional DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) are needed to bolster the Cornish branches.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 22:19:05 »

Whats causing the issues with FGWs (First Great Western) on 158s, thought they were addressed during refurb?
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 22:42:29 »

I think one or two SWT (South West Trains) 158s are still with EMT» (East Midlands Trains - about) whilst their 158s are going through refurb so yes at the moment SWT appear to be the only TOC (Train Operating Company) who do have DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) going spare but that will probably change in December when hourly Waterloo-Exeter services commence.

Nice to see two rival companies transport companies First and Stagecoach working together to provide a solution to FGW (First Great Western) rolling stock shortage problems. It shows that FGW are doing their best to provide as much rolling stock as possible for the busy summer period when additional DMUs are needed to bolster the Cornish branches.

Is there any possibility that this may be linked to the discussions that FGW have been having with the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) about replacing some SWT services west of Exeter from December 2009, or are the two strands entirely seperate?
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 23:09:50 »

Lee I think they could be anything, I heard this last night as well, and possible reasons for their arrival, choose from either:

1 - they are to replace 150^s going back to ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company)))
2 ^ with the current state of FGW (First Great Western) 158^s they are desperate for anything that runs.

I go with the latter if recent experience is anything to go by. Anyone know how many 158/9^s are currently 2 car?

I know they are struggling in the west country at the moment with overcrowding, last week saw issues on Looe and Newquay branches with chronic overcrowding, to an extreme that has never been seen before on the Looe line! St Ives was a 4 car 150 last week and was running full all day (usually booked a 2 car until the end of June in previous years!!), I think with the credit crunch and not being able to get many euros for your pound combined with good weather will see a real bumper summer and plenty of full branch trains!
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2009, 08:22:57 »

Whats causing the issues with FGWs (First Great Western) on 158s, thought they were addressed during refurb?

i am led to believe it is engines giving up,something that was not addressed on refresh.in fact refresh was basically painting and new carpets,seat covers.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 10:18:02 »

Whats causing the issues with FGWs (First Great Western) on 158s, thought they were addressed during refurb?

i am led to believe it is engines giving up,something that was not addressed on refresh.in fact refresh was basically painting and new carpets,seat covers.

And a nice warm summer will only exacerbate the problem when all the A/C will go kaput, some are already running around with open windows.

Although I'm led to believe that cabs will be nice and cool.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2009, 10:26:44 »

Cab ac is indeed being upgraded. 158s first.
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 21:30:09 »

Cab ac is indeed being upgraded. 158s first.

only in cab where driver is,case of who cares about the guard
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 21:36:05 »

The guard will be out in the carriages, checking tickets, surely, rather than sitting in a stuffy cab?  Tongue Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 21:40:19 »

please be on barny lol i wonder if the onboard passender info system and auto anouncements will work
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