Don't get caught out

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[devon_metro]

Thought it might be worth noting that any passengers using high speed services between Paddington and Reading should not board the xx06 to the West of England, so you will be required to buy a ticket to as far as Exeter St Davids (on the 1006 and 1206) as they are pick up only at Reading, and rightly so.

Alternatives at xx00 and xx15.

[Btline]

Why? Surely it is better for boarding Reading passengers that the train empties slightly...

And how will the barrier staff know to charge a fare to Exeter (I'm assuming tickets won't be checked onboard)

[IndustryInsider]

Why? Because they are extremely busy - I caught the 12:06 to Reading a week ago today and jeez was it packed- I eventually found some sanctuary in a first class vestibule. There are plenty of other quieter trains to Reading at that time of day. And surely if those passengers leaving at Reading weren't on the train then it would be that much emptier anyway (though still probably full and standing). People clambering over suitcases and bodies in the doorways trying to leave the train leads to huge delays at busy places like Reading.

12:00, 12:15, 12:18 and 12:21 departures are all HST^▸ (High Speed Train)'s and much quieter at that time of day as they are not heading to holiday destinations.

[Timmer]

I think that most West of England services should be pick up only at Reading whatever day or time of the week/season it is.

[devon_metro]

I think that most West of England services should be pick up only at Reading whatever day or time of the week/season it is.

They all are now - thats the point 

I pity anybody travelling on them today.

[devon_metro]

Why? Surely it is better for boarding Reading passengers that the train empties slightly...

And how will the barrier staff know to charge a fare to Exeter (I'm assuming tickets won't be checked onboard)

Why would the barrier staff be charging anybody tickets to Exeter?

Clearly you don't understand how pick up works. On the boards at Paddington, the 1206 to Penzance for example would now be:
1206 PENZANCE
Exeter St David's
Newton Abbot
Plymouth

etc

Its only if you are caught on board by on train staff that you will be excessed to Exeter, as that is the first official station that the service stops at (as far as passengers at Paddington are concerned! )

[Timmer]

I think that most West of England services should be pick up only at Reading whatever day or time of the week/season it is.

They all are now - thats the point 

So they are. Until now I hadn't really looked at the new London-West of England timetable. Good move by FGW^▸ (First Great Western).

[Btline]

D/M, as I said in my post, I am assuming there will be no ticket check onboard. (esp if the train is as full and standing as is being described)

If the train does not set down at Reading, it will be full. If it does, then it will still be full, but will let passengers off, thus freeing up space for Reading passengers.

It's like having set down only stops at Watford Junction on VT^▸ (Virgin Trains - former franchises). If people are going to get off, why not have people to get on to keep the train full? (NB: At peak times VT don't call at Watford, so the "The train will be swamped by commuters" argument does not apply)

[devon_metro]

D/M, as I said in my post, I am assuming there will be no ticket check onboard. (esp if the train is as full and standing as is being described)

If the train does not set down at Reading, it will be full. If it does, then it will still be full, but will let passengers off, thus freeing up space for Reading passengers.

It's like having set down only stops at Watford Junction on VT^▸ (Virgin Trains - former franchises). If people are going to get off, why not have people to get on to keep the train full? (NB: At peak times VT don't call at Watford, so the "The train will be swamped by commuters" argument does not apply)

They are only set down towards the WOE^▸ (West of England).

[cereal_basher]

D/M, as I said in my post, I am assuming there will be no ticket check onboard. (esp if the train is as full and standing as is being described)

If the train does not set down at Reading, it will be full. If it does, then it will still be full, but will let passengers off, thus freeing up space for Reading passengers.

It's like having set down only stops at Watford Junction on VT^▸ (Virgin Trains - former franchises). If people are going to get off, why not have people to get on to keep the train full? (NB: At peak times VT don't call at Watford, so the "The train will be swamped by commuters" argument does not apply)

Your logic is flawed. Not setting down at Reading means from Paddington there will be no passengers for Reading, so the train will be less busy. Therefore there will still be the same room for people from Reading.
And as the train will not be advertised as calling at Reading I doubt people will board it. The system doesn't announce set-down only stops. In summer the 1136 Paddington-Newquay service will announce as calling at Lostwithiel, Par and Newquay.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

in otherwords if your going from paddington to reading...... DO NOT USE THIS SERVICE...use the dedicated service boarding this service is only adding to overcrowding and slowing the service down at reading as im guessing that it is timetabled for a shorter stop as it should only be picking up

[John R]

D/M, as I said in my post, I am assuming there will be no ticket check onboard. (esp if the train is as full and standing as is being described)

If the train does not set down at Reading, it will be full. If it does, then it will still be full, but will let passengers off, thus freeing up space for Reading passengers.

It's like having set down only stops at Watford Junction on VT^▸ (Virgin Trains - former franchises). If people are going to get off, why not have people to get on to keep the train full? (NB: At peak times VT don't call at Watford, so the "The train will be swamped by commuters" argument does not apply)

You obviously don't understand....

It calls at Reading to pick up passengers for the West of England. BY having it pu only at Reading it avoids pax travelling to the WOE^▸ (West of England) having to stand (and maybe not even being able to get on) because of pax travelling to Reading who have alternatives a few minutes either side. That's very sensible, particularly for peak departures, which would otherwise be crowded with commuters. 

It's not displayed on the departure boards, but that won't necessarily stop regular travellers who realise that it will actually call at Reading. So, if you get on the train when it wasn't advertised to stop at Reading, the TM^‡(resolve) is entirely justified to charge you to the first stop, and this is what will happen.

I would have though it is quite likely that there will be a ticket check before Reading, specifically to enforce the rule.   

[devon_metro]

D/M, as I said in my post, I am assuming there will be no ticket check onboard. (esp if the train is as full and standing as is being described)

If the train does not set down at Reading, it will be full. If it does, then it will still be full, but will let passengers off, thus freeing up space for Reading passengers.

It's like having set down only stops at Watford Junction on VT^▸ (Virgin Trains - former franchises). If people are going to get off, why not have people to get on to keep the train full? (NB: At peak times VT don't call at Watford, so the "The train will be swamped by commuters" argument does not apply)

You obviously don't understand....

It calls at Reading to pick up passengers for the West of England. BY having it pu only at Reading it avoids pax travelling to the WOE^▸ (West of England) having to stand (and maybe not even being able to get on) because of pax travelling to Reading who have alternatives a few minutes either side. That's very sensible, particularly for peak departures, which would otherwise be crowded with commuters. 

It's not displayed on the departure boards, but that won't necessarily stop regular travellers who realise that it will actually call at Reading. So, if you get on the train when it wasn't advertised to stop at Reading, the TM^‡(resolve) is entirely justified to charge you to the first stop, and this is what will happen.

I would have though it is quite likely that there will be a ticket check before Reading, specifically to enforce the rule.   

Well put, I was struggling to understand what Btline was on about myself.

[Mookiemoo]

But if the train is that full and standing then the chances of a ticket check before Reading are?


Pointless idea

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

i think its just an attempt to get people onto local services and off the already busy service... if you thought that you were going to have to pay to exeter to use this service wouldnt you get on the dedicated service insted?