Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 06:15 11 Jan 2025
 
- Two million discounted tickets up for grabs in rail sale
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 14/01/25 - Rail Sale starts
24/01/25 - Westbury Station reopens
24/01/25 - LTP4 Wilts / Consultation end
24/01/25 - Bristol Rail Campaign AGM 2025

On this day
11th Jan (2012)
TVM - a fair weather facility? (link)

Train RunningCancelled
09:38 Weymouth to Frome
11:50 London Paddington to Hereford
Short Run
05:40 Penzance to Cardiff Central
06:59 Frome to Weymouth
07:43 Great Malvern to London Paddington
15:14 Hereford to London Paddington
Delayed
05:47 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
January 11, 2025, 06:33:10 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[109] Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsew...
[96] Westminster Hall debate : Railway services to South West
[59] Ryanair sues 'unruly' passenger over flight diversion
[53] Mick Lynch announces retirement as head of RMT
[49] 'Railway 200' events and commemorations 2025
[38] GWR Advance Purchase sale - January 2025
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: Bizarre instrutions to customer host - FGW with an underhanded plan re buffets?  (Read 6509 times)
Mookiemoo
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3117


View Profile Email
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2009, 09:26:50 »

Where does the insomniac special start from - the one that leaves WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) at around 5am
Logged

Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
Don
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 128



View Profile
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2009, 11:40:13 »

The 5am HST (High Speed Train) to Paddington is stabled at Worcester overnight.  I have travelled on it a couple of times, in both cases there were less than 10 passengers on the train before the Oxford stop.  It only became full at Reading.

Thanks Ollie for answers to my previous post.
Logged

Regards,
Don.
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10365


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2009, 15:23:54 »

The 5am HST (High Speed Train) to Paddington is stabled at Worcester overnight.  I have travelled on it a couple of times, in both cases there were less than 10 passengers on the train before the Oxford stop.  It only became full at Reading.

Well, in my experience (I've probably caught it 30-odd times over the years) it's a hell of a lot busier than that! Granted the Worcester and Evesham stops don't get much trade - that's partly to do with the 15 minute rest the train has at Moreton-In-Marsh meaning the following train isn't too far behind and the fact that it is a new service.

Custom from Moreton onwards is far more than 10 passengers though. Typically (and this is erring on the side of caution) 15 join at Moreton, 10 at Kingham, 15 at Charlbury and 10 at Hanborough. Then around 80-100 swamp it at Oxford. Didcot Parkway varies considerably depending on whether the platform 2 departures there are running to time and Reading is also hit and miss depending on what else is around, but usually it's a case of nearly every seat taken after Reading.
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
Don
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 128



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 15:27:25 »

Oh Good, last time I traveled on it was last winter and it did make me wonder if it was soon for the axe. 
Logged

Regards,
Don.
broadgage
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5632



View Profile
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2009, 19:17:16 »

If they are to "mothball" the buffet, why have they revamped the travelling chef and committed to mini-buffets?  Huh

I would not call replacing proper buffets with mini buffets a commitment to catering !

And as for the travelling chef, it is a slightly improved hot buffet, and a very poor substitute for the Pullman restaurant formerly provided on busy trains.
Those expecting a hot buffet might well be impressed with the travelling chef, those expecting a proper restaurant would be less impressed!

Downgrading restaurants to a braserie/travelling chef/select travelling chef/pullman brasserie/latest re-branding is not a commitment to catering.
Logged

A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
Btline
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4782



View Profile
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2009, 19:39:39 »

D/M, the above post is a better explanation of my "I think you've answered your own question" comment! Wink

By "committing" to mini-buffets, FGW (First Great Western) are showing that they are not "committed" to catering.
Logged
Tim
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2738


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2009, 14:50:46 »

FGW (First Great Western) are to be congratulated for keeping at least a half decent level of catering with travelling chefs and mini-buffets on some of their trains at a time when other TOCs (Train Operating Company) are doing much worse in terms of cutting restarants etc (NXEA (National Express East Anglia), NXEC (National Express East Coast), XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) etc). 

My main complaint is that they keep chopping and changing abandoning and relaunching things like teh travellingchef the public (and staff) don't have time to get familiar with the product and for it to bed-down in terms of consistancy before it gets changed.  I fear that thsi will lead to falling custom and more cuts
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page