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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 20:59:05 » |
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To be fair, writing a timetable is not easy, and it is amazing it fits together as well as it does!
(Cotswold Line excluded, obviously)
The whole point of this thread is that it doesn't fit in. I timetabled the Falmouth timetable yonks ago, apart from the times of the hour they depart, my timetable was identical timing wise. Not hard to timetable Falmouth. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 21:57:20 » |
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To be fair, writing a timetable is not easy, and it is amazing it fits together as well as it does!
(Cotswold Line excluded, obviously)
The whole point of this thread is that it doesn't fit in. I timetabled the Falmouth timetable yonks ago, apart from the times of the hour they depart, my timetable was identical timing wise. Not hard to timetable Falmouth. Problem is that the Fal branch is now (nearly) clockface but the mainline isn't so someone is always going tolose out, don't forget that falmouth trains have to run for around quarter of a mile down and wrong line along the down main so to timetable a half hourly service to not conflict with main line trains does take some planning! Also, those who REALLY have studied the timetables will see some major benefits, i.e. before 18/05 the down "Duchy" arrived at Truro at 1623, branch left 1628, on paper a good connection, in REALITY the "Duchy" was always late and just missed the Falmouth (which couldn't be held due to tight turnaround and tight connection back at Truro) giving people an hour wait at Truro, now the "Duchy" arrives 1623 and connection is 1650, so by the time the train arrives 5 late as it seems to every bloomin day, people get their bags off train, orientate themselves with platforms (without having to rush!) then they only have about 15 mins to wait but never a missed connection. It's the same with the "riviera" which used to arrive 1423 Fal connection 1432, with that one it was nearly 2hrs until next train, in the "up" direction the 1011 from Fal had about a 6 min connection with the 1000 Pnz-Pad, passengers always panicing about missing it and having to lump cases and kids over the bridge in a mad rush at Truro, now the 0950 from Fal has a 22 min connection which gives people time to get everything over the bridge without rushing, or over the level crossing for those less mobile, same with many more "up" connections, yes it makes the overall journey time longer on paper but in reality it makes the journey less stressful and easier going and for a lot of people will make the journey quicker for the times that the connections have been missed in the past! |
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 22:09:04 » |
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The late running of the down Riv and Duchy is ridiculous. They are meant to arrive at Exeter at 1209/1410 respectivly. It can easily be done so that they depart at 1208/1408 if there was no faffing around en route. This easily gives them more slack in Cornwall where it seems HSTs▸ are incapable of keeping to booked time!
On that note, who does the up Riviera now get 2 minutes less to complete Penzance to Plymouth? It often arrived at Plymouth a few minutes late. Then again, 5 hours Penzance to Paddington is impressive in this day and age.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 22:27:17 » |
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The late running of the down Riv and Duchy is ridiculous. They are meant to arrive at Exeter at 1209/1410 respectivly. It can easily be done so that they depart at 1208/1408 if there was no faffing around en route. This easily gives them more slack in Cornwall where it seems HSTs▸ are incapable of keeping to booked time!
On that note, who does the up Riviera now get 2 minutes less to complete Penzance to Plymouth? It often arrived at Plymouth a few minutes late. Then again, 5 hours Penzance to Paddington is impressive in this day and age.
It no longer calls at Hayle, quite a time saving as Hayle station is right on the bottom of a steep long incline on the up. |
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 22:39:11 » |
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Ahhh that's good. Bit of a shack for the premier service through Cornwall.
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2009, 14:22:06 » |
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The late running of the down Riv and Duchy is ridiculous. They are meant to arrive at Exeter at 1209/1410 respectivly. It can easily be done so that they depart at 1208/1408 if there was no faffing around en route. This easily gives them more slack in Cornwall where it seems HSTs▸ are incapable of keeping to booked time!
On that note, who does the up Riviera now get 2 minutes less to complete Penzance to Plymouth? It often arrived at Plymouth a few minutes late. Then again, 5 hours Penzance to Paddington is impressive in this day and age.
There are times when i've seen those 2 services arrive at Exeter up to 9 minutes early! |
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2009, 14:55:31 » |
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Yeh, think it was in at 1202 on Thursday.
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2009, 22:21:14 » |
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Its one of those funny trains, it's either early or late, never on time! As for Cornwalls premiere service, if I had my way it would only call at Penzance, Truro, Bodmin PW▸ , Plymouth and Padd!
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2009, 00:23:19 » |
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Its one of those funny trains, it's either early or late, never on time! As for Cornwalls premiere service, if I had my way it would only call at Penzance, Truro, Bodmin PW▸ , Plymouth and Padd!
a true intercity! Let the local services fill the gaps |
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"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2009, 17:14:06 » |
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Its one of those funny trains, it's either early or late, never on time! As for Cornwalls premiere service, if I had my way it would only call at Penzance, Truro, Bodmin PW▸ , Plymouth and Padd!
a true intercity! Let the local services fill the gaps Problem is there are no local services! |
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2009, 18:51:55 » |
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Just run a stopper Plymouth to Penzance a few minutes after the HST▸ has left Plymouth.
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2009, 18:57:09 » |
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I'll just lend FGW▸ my train tree.
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2009, 20:45:32 » |
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I'll just lend FGW▸ my train tree.
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2009, 21:21:07 » |
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I'll just lend FGW▸ my train tree.
Grow me a money tree whilst your at it Now, now. Let's not be too harsh on btline. The fact that his view of life is somewhat naive does not detract from his contributions to this Forum.  |
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2009, 21:28:52 » |
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Why do FGW▸ need a train tree? They use a 150 for the Cornish Main line do they not? I was merely suggesting a good time for the stopper to run.
As for being "naive" - I am quite aware of the national stock shortage thank you - no need for the patronising comment.
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