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Author Topic: The Saturday and Sunday anacronism - SWT to Penzance  (Read 7904 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 20:01:16 »

even worse... im guessing that there wont be a class 159 at penzance ever again or possibly ever... camera out
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 20:01:46 »

Depends of course, for what reasons Wink

If you want to go to hear such exotic locations as St Erth announced on the on board announcements, then perhaps Wink
Of course remember that the Saturday Waterloo-Penzance service doesn't call at St Erth.

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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2009, 19:42:39 »

I am on this very train now. This week it is a class 158. Pure luxury but unfortunately it is being very poorly used, only about 20 people on board.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 21:01:08 »

The SWT (South West Trains) summer CWNs show all Paignton, Plymouth and Penzance services as 159s, so you should only get 158s by exception (til the end of this year when they finish for good)...

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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 21:10:04 »

I am on this very train now. This week it is a class 158. Pure luxury but unfortunately it is being very poorly used, only about 20 people on board.

It was very busy at Dawlish Warren.
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2009, 17:36:23 »

The SWT (South West Trains) summer CWNs show all Paignton, Plymouth and Penzance services as 159s, so you should only get 158s by exception (til the end of this year when they finish for good)...

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They are techinically all 159s now, it's is just problems with FGW (First Great Western) crew not signing Class 159s that will make it a 158.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2009, 18:57:46 »

I think I may have misunderstood cereal_basher... But aren't the FGW (First Great Western) 158's still 158's because they are a full set + half a set...?! My understanding was that a 159 was a native 3 car set... Not what FGW have done to their fleet...!

I know there is a native 3 car 158 running around... But I believe that doesn't have lavatory retention tanks, which the 159's have.

Open for correction of course Wink
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2009, 19:03:10 »

Yes that is true of FGW (First Great Western)'s 158s. But we are talking about the SWT (South West Trains) 159 that is meant to operate to Penzance every week, and how that is sometimes a SWT 158 instead. It has FGW crew between Exeter St Davids and Penzance as well.
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2009, 19:11:37 »

Oh right, I'm with you now Wink Thanks for clearing that up... Wink Grin
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2009, 19:58:09 »

Quite amusing really considering the fact that 158/8s and 159s are pretty much identical.
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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2009, 21:02:32 »

Most Penzance crews don't actually sign 158's any more!
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 21:28:18 »

Is the SWT (South West Trains) working not Exeter crew then?
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 22:33:37 »

No, its a Penzance Job, they supply the crew for the sat down/sun up service.
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 23:41:25 »

OK THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT I KNOW ABOUT... FOR ONCE,
 swt has class 159's and 2 car 158's the recent class 159's which were aquired actually came from tpe which were converted from 3 car class 158's which were built as 3 car units, they were refurbed upto class 159 standards (toilets cctv info display) and reclassified as 159/1

the swt sprinter fleet consists of 22 159/0 3 car units, 7 or 8 159/1 3 car units converted from tpe 158 3 car units, and i think 10 class 158 two car units
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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2009, 07:27:53 »

Not related to this route, but I Believe SWT (South West Trains) use to operate Turbostars on the London - Salisbury routes...! These I believe have now changed hands Wink
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