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Author Topic: East Coast franchise - ongoing discussion, merged topic  (Read 68880 times)
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« Reply #120 on: April 18, 2011, 18:37:17 »

Although East Coast does say that delays are due to signalling problems between KX and Stevenage, and between Darlington and York!

Delay / cancellation re:14.00 KX to Aberdeen due to disruptive passengers. Other train alterations stem from this and the providing of a replacement HST (High Speed Train) to Aberdeen starting at Newcastle.
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« Reply #121 on: April 18, 2011, 19:12:05 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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East Coast train evacuated after passenger stabbed

Hundreds of people were evacuated from an East Coast train in Lincolnshire after a passenger was stabbed.

British Transport Police (BTP (British Transport Police)) and Lincolnshire Police were called to Grantham Station just after 1430 BST to reports of a stabbing.

A 37-year-old man suffered head injuries in the attack, which happened on the 1400 BST London to Aberdeen service, a BTP spokesman said.

About 400 passengers were evacuated and transferred to another train.

A 33-year-old man, from Glasgow, has been arrested on suspicion of wounding.

East Coast trains said some services had been delayed or disrupted.

Police said the victim was treated at the scene by paramedics and his injuries are not thought to be life-threatening.

Can't blame Network Rail for that one.  Roll Eyes Shocked
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #122 on: April 18, 2011, 22:12:39 »

Can you be arrested for "wounding"?
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« Reply #123 on: April 18, 2011, 22:24:35 »

Yes:

Wounding and Assault causing Grevious Bodily Harm (GBH)

The Offences Against the Persons Act 1847 contains two offences of wounding or causing GBH under Section 18 and 20. Section 18 is by far the most serious as it carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment, whereas the maximum for Section 20 is 5 years. The difference is that the prosecution must prove that you intended to cause serious bodily harm under Section 18, whereas they need only show that you acted recklessly under Section 20.

Under both sections, an assault causing grievous bodily harm or wounding is defined as follows.
To constitute a wound the whole skin must be broken. It must be more than a scratch, but one drop of blood would be sufficient.

Grievous bodily harm must be ^really serious harm^, an obvious example of which would be a broken bone. There is no legal definition however, and it is a question of fact for the jury to decide.

Arrest and Punishment
Both offences under sections 18 and 20 are arrestable under Section 24 PACE» (Police & Criminal Evidence Act - about) and triable on indictment only.
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« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2011, 09:56:58 »

Although East Coast does say that delays are due to signalling problems between KX and Stevenage

There were definitely problems with the signalling here in FCC (First Capital Connect) land last night.  Down Slow out of action through Knebworth, with passengers being advised to travel to Stevenage and take a southbound train back to Knebworth.
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« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2011, 10:05:25 »

Major teething problems

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Tea and coffee down first - no option for food - or even ordering paid for food without going to queue with standard

Food comes down after stevenage but if you missed the coffee/tea then you have to wait......

Trolley freebies about the same as FGW (First Great Western) - you can order free brekkie but again - only after stevenage

Ideal - as I fed back to the customer manager,........

Freebie service for long distance pax - cust host go fetch from chef paid for items for 1 hour pax

I like my bacon sarnie and I'l pay for it!
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« Reply #126 on: May 23, 2011, 12:42:49 »

Its absolutely crap for passengers south of peterborough.......

You still have to pay for the same stuff but now you have to go fetch yourself because they are too busy giving complimentary grub to 70 MINUTES plus passengers...

If this were not my last week I would announce that they had liost a first class passenger
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« Reply #127 on: May 23, 2011, 12:44:13 »

I think they *are* trying to ditch their Peterborough contingent from 1st Class...
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« Reply #128 on: May 23, 2011, 14:40:16 »

To be fair, Virgin passengers in First from MKC (Milton Keynes Central) - EUS only get the tea and light nibbles and don't even have the option of paying for the hot food offering.
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« Reply #129 on: May 27, 2011, 19:23:56 »

Not worth a new thread but they've just featured one of the down FGW (First Great Western) Pullman Restaurants on The ONE Show. Suspect it will be on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) IPlayer shortly. It's about 15 mins from the start.
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« Reply #130 on: May 28, 2011, 14:09:44 »

There's something amiss on the ECML (East Coast Main Line) today - anyone know what the problem is to rule out any trains for at least the rest of the day?

From National Rail Enquiries:
Overhead wire problems are causing disruption between Grantham and Peterborough.

Because of this, trains are currently unable to run between Grantham and Peterborough. This disruption is expected to continue for at least the rest of today. There is no current estimate for when a normal service will resume.

There is no replacement road transport available at this time. Passengers are advised to use alternative routes where possible.
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« Reply #131 on: May 28, 2011, 14:14:52 »

OHL (Over-Head Line) needing replacement I suspect.
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« Reply #132 on: May 28, 2011, 17:26:36 »

It seems a Mk4 train (i.e. Class 91 loco) pulled all of the wires down, over 4 tracks, north of Peterborough this morning and stopped the job. Coaches were disconnected from loco -which is always at north end of train - and taken by Thunderbird to Stevenage where a connection to Kings Cross was laid on. At least one HST (High Speed Train) from Doncaster to London (or maybe Peterborough) ran via Lincoln, and the 13,30 Kings Cross to Inverness (an HST) ran north that way.

Could take all weekend to re-wire, but from now until Monday pm it is not that busy with it being a Bank Holiday. Tickets valid by almost every other TOC (Train Operating Company) - perhaps not FGW (First Great Western)!. To Scotland with Virgin, to Yorkshire and North East with VWC, XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) (only 1 train an hour instead of two, and diverted via Leicester with longer journeys!) or Trans Pennine Express via Manchester, plus EMT» (East Midlands Trains - about) from St Pancras. Not a good time to be travelling I guess!
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« Reply #133 on: May 28, 2011, 17:31:51 »

Just as well they lifted the engineering work on the WCML (West Coast Main Line).
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« Reply #134 on: May 28, 2011, 17:52:19 »

It seems a Mk4 train (i.e. Class 91 loco) pulled all of the wires down, over 4 tracks, north of Peterborough this morning and stopped the job.
This is the big problem with the Mk3 Headspan OHLE one line get ripped down it drags the others with it.   It was used in the 1980/90's because it was a cheaper method to electrify than the portal system used on the WCML (West Coast Main Line); this is the main reason why the GWML (Great Western Main Line) West of Airport Junction will not be using headspan other than possibly a few exceptional locations, the favoured method now is cantilevers or portals.

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