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« Reply #90 on: September 22, 2008, 09:45:00 » |
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Machine at Nailsea was looking very sad this morning. Looked like someone had taken an axe to it yesterday.
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« Reply #91 on: November 09, 2008, 12:50:43 » |
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Two month's on and the machine at Yate still hasn't been replaced. The machine on platform 1 has been out of use since September too. Presumably they are connected/networked for fares updates and card authorisations so both machines need to be in place?
A Gloucester based conductor told me that Yate is to have a machine intended for Cam & Dursley as Yate's need is far greater. I hope that when it is replaced it is repositioned so that it is not facing south or south-east as the direct sunlight on it during the summer months made the machine unusable even if in perfect working order.
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« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2008, 14:45:02 » |
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Hi, g4mby, and welcome to the Coffee Shop forum!
We still have the same unsatisfactory situation with the machine on platform 2 at Nailsea, too. Our local cheery chap does what he can, but he's not there every day, and in the peak the surviving ticket machine under platform 1 just isn't enough!
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #93 on: November 11, 2008, 17:23:15 » |
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Unofficial word is that persons unknown attempted to 'borrow' the machine...using a 'borrowed' 4x4. Vehicle came off worse according to my source.
Yes, thanks indeed, G.Uard!  Now, the question perhaps arises: if these ^20,000 ticket machines are apparently 4x4-proof ... why aren't they also water-proof   The water-proof touch screen costs a few Hundred quid more, FGW▸ think it's cheaper to put in shelters for those ticket machines in WET locations, they only cost a few grand!!!!! It must NEVER rain at some FGW stations |
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« Reply #94 on: November 12, 2008, 16:03:14 » |
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It wouldn't dare rain at Yate |
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« Reply #95 on: November 12, 2008, 18:19:09 » |
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Over two years Yate has shown the strongest growth of any station with a meaningful thoughput, from 128,000 to 199,000 entries and exits. At this rate of growth it will overtake Keynsham in next year's figures. (Actually last year's figures because of the delay in publishing them.)
And all this with only an hourly service, which must discourage a lot of potential users.
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« Reply #96 on: February 09, 2009, 22:50:59 » |
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Hello there
I am just trying to find out just how many FGW▸ penalty fares stations still have there ticket vending machines installed as it has recently come to my attention that many have been removed due to vandalism and theft. While traveling around the thames valley on Saturday i noticed the machines at Langley and Bourne End had both been removed .I am also prety sure the machines at Hungerford, Worle ,Keynsham ,Cam & Durlsley and Yate have gone although i unsure confirmation would be appreciated.
Thanks in adavnce
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« Reply #97 on: February 09, 2009, 23:17:28 » |
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As of 12:00 Sunday 8th Feb '09 following machines I am aware of:
Bourne End: been vandalised and removed.
Crowthorne: 1 of 2 has been removed.
Goring & Streatley: has been removed.
Keynsham: has been removed.
Mortimer: has been removed.
North Camp: 1 of 2 has been removed.
Pangbourne: has been removed.
St Austell: out of use for car park maintenance.
Trowbridge: 1 of 2 has been removed.
Trowbridge: 2 of 2 has been Vandalised.
Worle: has been removed.
Yate: 1 of 2 has been removed.
Yatton: TVM▸ Downside removed.
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« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2009, 23:18:35 » |
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« Reply #99 on: February 10, 2009, 01:00:53 » |
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Bodmin Parkway removed and re-instated...was in such a stupid place that no-one realised it was there.
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« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2009, 14:02:25 » |
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A friend who works for FGW▸ suggested to me a while ago that penalty fares were unlikely to be charged in the Bristol area unless a passenger had boarded at a station with an open staffed ticket office, as it was too difficult to prove that the machines were functioning correctly at a given unstaffed station, thereby leaving the penalty fare notice wide open to appeal.
So, what are the rules as far as penalty fares go when some machines at a station are missing?
To take an example: at Keynsham a couple of weeks ago the ticket machine on the Bristol-bound platform was missing, but the machine on the Bath-bound platform was still in situ (sounds like it may not be anymore!).
So, if I walked from Keynsham town centre to catch a train for Bristol, all I would walk past is the missing machine. If I then boarded the train without a ticket (having noticed the missing machine), would I be liable to a penalty fare?
And are these ticket machine removals permanent? Are they to be replaced with something more robust (e.g. a PERTIS▸ machine issuing permits to travel rather than a full-blown ticket machine?)
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« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2009, 16:03:28 » |
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Penalty fares in the Bristol area not currently in place from any station, still dragging their heels getting licence, strictly speaking if any form of ticket issuing facilty is availiable then a penalty fare could be charged and it be down to the customer to appeal, and not having the correct change is not classed as a valid reason officially, although all of the non-functional TVM▸ 's are paged out all the time through the day to allow inspectors to make their judgement with all the facts.
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« Reply #102 on: February 10, 2009, 17:05:35 » |
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And are these ticket machine removals permanent? Are they to be replaced with something more robust (e.g. a PERTIS▸ machine issuing permits to travel rather than a full-blown ticket machine?)
If FGW▸ take notice of what SWT▸ have done, they'll probably be removing Permit to travel (PERTIS) facilities wherever there are modern Ticket Vending Machines ( TVMs▸ ) installed. What SWT found was that many pax would just stick 10p in a Permit to travel (PERTIS) machine routinely, hoping they'd avoid a grip on the train. Unless the Permit to travel (PERTIS) machines are of a type that only gets switched on if the TVM reports itself U/S, they seem to create a bit of a loophole alongside a working TVM, or where there is a TVM is only on one platform... Paul Edit:VickiS - clarifying acronyms |
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« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2009, 17:10:23 » |
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The penalty fare wouldn't apply if there was no way of you buying a ticket at the station, so yes the machine may not be on your platform, but there are facilities at the station for buying a ticket.
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« Reply #104 on: February 10, 2009, 17:15:33 » |
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And are these ticket machine removals permanent? Are they to be replaced with something more robust (e.g. a PERTIS▸ machine issuing permits to travel rather than a full-blown ticket machine?)
If FGW▸ take notice of what SWT▸ have done, they'll probably be removing PERTIS facilities wherever there are modern TVMs▸ installed. What SWT found was that many pax would just stick 10p in a PERTIS machine routinely, hoping they'd avoid a grip on the train. Unless the PERTIS machines are of a type that only gets switched on if the TVM reports itself U/S, they seem to create a bit of a loophole alongside a working TVM, or where there is a TVM is only on one platform... Paul Some of the Pertis machines in London used to only accept a minimum of ^1 of the basis that no tickets were cheaper than that. |
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