Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 04:55 19 Apr 2025
 
- British man, 27, killed by avalanche in French Alps
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury
10/05/25 - Model Railsay Show, Calne
13/05/25 - Melksham TUG / AGM
14/05/25 - West Wiltshire RUG

On this day
19th Apr (1938)
Foundation, Beatties of London (link)

Train RunningCancelled
05:58 Westbury to Portsmouth Harbour
06:31 Truro to Falmouth Docks
06:52 Par to Newquay
07:15 Falmouth Docks to Truro
16:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Foregate Street
18:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
21:32 Cheltenham Spa to Swindon
22:39 Swindon to Gloucester
Short Run
07:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
08:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
08:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
08:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Foregate Street
10:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
11:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
11:42 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury
12:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
13:07 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads
13:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
14:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Foregate Street
14:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
15:42 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury
16:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
17:06 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads
17:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
18:12 Salisbury to Cheltenham Spa
20:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth
21:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Westbury
Delayed
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 13:59 Bristol Temple Meads to Cardiff Central
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 19, 2025, 05:03:39 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[147] FOSS and FOSW validity - some quirks
[111] Fifteen years of the Transwilts CRP
[97] Wiltshire Day Rover - new multi-operator bus ticket
[81] St Erth station - facilities, footbridge, improvements, incide...
[56] Destination: London Travelcard Zones 1-6
[44] Melksham's rail service - where are we, on the anniversary of ...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 2 [3]
  Print  
Author Topic: First Group - General  (Read 18476 times)
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2008, 22:24:13 »

The contractors screwed up at Rugby. I don't hear anyone saying "never mind Network Rail, not your fault you chose contractors who weren't up to the job" (or financially sound in FGW (First Great Western)'s case.)

I'm looking forward to seeing the punctuality and reliability figures for the latest four week period...... 
Logged
Chris from Nailsea
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 19549



View Profile Email
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2008, 22:30:23 »

FGW (First Great Western) management if you are reading this you are welcome to post here too  Smiley

Any takers ... ?  Tongue
Logged

William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
Chris from Nailsea
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 19549



View Profile Email
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2008, 23:01:48 »

On the other hand, Insider is back !!!  See http://indefenceoffirstgreatwestern.blogspot.com/2008/01/oh-dear-oh-dear.html  Smiley
Logged

William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post - a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London, depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
smokey
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1129


View Profile
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2008, 14:45:33 »

Contractors, give me strength if there were some bad ideas from the consultants who put the Package together to break up BR (British Rail(ways)), passing everything over to Contractors really was a bad idea.

Anybody got a copy of Rail issue 476 dated Dec 10 2003 on page 59, theres a letter that is mind blowing about contractors.
It states it cost the TOC (Train Operating Company)'s over ^100 just to get a single light repaired, much more on platforms.

I was at Exeter St David about a year ago and a Painter was painting a door in FGW (First Great Western) colours and he was taking time to do a good job, I passed comment that it was UNUSUAL to see such care taken by contractors, his reply was he worked for FGW, so if painters are in house  i think its time for more inhouse work.

I've got photographs of a waiting shelter on a FGW Station where the shelter was replaced with one with lights in it.
To install power Contractors came down and installed a duct from the nearest lampost to the leg of the shelter.
As they had gone to the wrong leg they were sent back to install a 2nd duct from the lampost on the other side of the shelter to the nearest leg.
They came back a 3rd time to install a duct from the lamp post to the correct leg of the shelter (the one with a removable cover).
So by acting the goat the contractors got paid 3 times for the same job.

What about Railtrack, they paid tens of thousands for a fence to be put up, it was a nice job, but a few weeks later the whole fence was nicked, so Railtrack sent the fencing firm back to install the fence again.
Couple of months later the fence was nicked again, this time however Railtrack had installed CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele-Vision) and found the installing company had stolen the fence.

Think on this:
For in-house workers the cost of work is kept in the minimun of cost, both Material and Labour.
For contracters the cost of work is as great and takes as long as they can get away with.
In both cases your jobs depend on it!
 

How many people realise that BR was spilt up and the Staff transfered to over 1000 companies, yes a Thousand companies.
Logged
Timmer
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 6603


View Profile
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2008, 14:53:33 »

How many people realise that BR (British Rail(ways)) was spilt up and the Staff transfered to over 1000 companies, yes a Thousand companies.
Yes I think ive heard that said somewhere before. I know some people have made a lot of money out of the break up of the railways but that could also be said of the NHS, local councils, road network...the list goes on.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 2 [3]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page