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« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2009, 01:27:33 »

I've just noticed the following in the Live Updates on the FGW (First Great Western) site:

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This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 8.This is due to an earlier train fault.

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They're not going to run a Turbo to Cheltenham are they???


No, it ran as an HST (High Speed Train). The set for the 15:51 was used on the 15:48

Glad to see the natural order of things upheld, with the Turbo going to the Cotswolds - I'm sure it was a fun-packed ride, especially for all the families with small children.
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« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2009, 08:14:38 »

Glad to see the natural order of things upheld, with the Turbo going to the Cotswolds - I'm sure it was a fun-packed ride, especially for all the families with small children.

But wouldn't there be a logic in the circumstance of them being a "125" short to run the Turbo via Swindon to Cheltenham - anyone who feels overcrowded on the Paddington to Swindon leg of the journey has other trains (all 125s) every 15 minutes, and the section outward from Swindon is handled in ever other hour by a short "West Fleet" train anyway.   Or am I missing something?

I know that Cheltenham has to be a 125 on Gold Cup day!

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« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2009, 09:30:44 »

Glad to see the natural order of things upheld, with the Turbo going to the Cotswolds - I'm sure it was a fun-packed ride, especially for all the families with small children.

But wouldn't there be a logic in the circumstance of them being a "125" short to run the Turbo via Swindon to Cheltenham - anyone who feels overcrowded on the Paddington to Swindon leg of the journey has other trains (all 125s) every 15 minutes, and the section outward from Swindon is handled in ever other hour by a short "West Fleet" train anyway.   Or am I missing something?

I know that Cheltenham has to be a 125 on Gold Cup day!


On a technical point are Turbos passed for Swindon Cheltenham and are there any drivers who know both Turbos and the route?
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« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2009, 10:27:42 »

probably not as clearances are tight in the stroud/stonehouse area, dont think any crews now sign both traction and route, although a handful of bristol guards did sign turbos when the oxford to bristol service used to operate
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« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2009, 11:09:09 »

I will check my Sectional Appendix when i am next at work.
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« Reply #50 on: February 20, 2009, 08:33:32 »

This morning at Paddington there was a dead HST (High Speed Train) in Platform 8 and opposite in 9 was a 5-car Turbo forming the 07:52 to Oxford vice HST.

Also the Gensheet Yahoo Group reported last night that 1A91 14:00 Penzance-Paddington failed at Newbury blocking the up platform and causing re-routings to other up trains.
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« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2009, 15:06:55 »

To add to BBM's post, there sure were a heck of a lot of Turbos plying up and down the main lines today, so HST (High Speed Train)'s really were in short supply. Another crocked set was being seen to by a fitter at the rear of Reading station.
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« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2009, 21:34:29 »

To add to BBM's post, there sure were a heck of a lot of Turbos plying up and down the main lines today, so HST (High Speed Train)'s really were in short supply. Another crocked set was being seen to by a fitter at the rear of Reading station.

That might be what I saw when I passed through about 13:00, it was just a powercar and Coach H
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« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2009, 21:57:41 »

TF had a fault with the wheelset. The rest of the rake was taken to St Phillips Marsh.
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« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2009, 09:23:21 »

Chaos this morning, broken down train near Ascott -u-Wychwood area (guard information). Trains running upto 45min late, information screens either off or showing incorrect information, missing out trains that have not yet arrived etc.

Edit: train ran out of fuel on single line according to a passenger announcement on an earlier train
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« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2009, 11:36:12 »

Today,

24 February 2009
This train will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 6.This is due to an earlier train fault.

This is the 1008 from Charlbury, timetabled as an HST (High Speed Train) but quietly replaced by a 3 -car turbo to Oxford then coupled up at oxford to another turbo. Causes massive overcrowding as far as oxford, but looks like even the additional carriages not running today.
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« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2009, 13:55:08 »

And an Adelante on the 11.22 to Malvern and 14.34 return.

What is going on with HST (High Speed Train) availabilty? Even when they have pulled two Cotswold train pairs, they still seem no better off.
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« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2009, 14:25:28 »

And an Adelante on the 11.22 to Malvern and 14.34 return.

What is going on with HST (High Speed Train) availabilty? Even when they have pulled two Cotswold train pairs, they still seem no better off.

Last time I checked, that is booked to be an Adelante. It then goes on to form the 17.51 to the Cotswolds.
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« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2009, 15:28:20 »

So even the control room are confused as to what type of train is working which service. Who can blame them.
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« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2009, 22:46:02 »

Given all FGW (First Great Western) HSTs (High Speed Train) now have MTU (Motor Traction Unit) engines are we now hitting one of those periods where a fault is beginning to show up as power cars exceed a certain mileage?

The problem with this type of fault is that you are so busy fixing units with the fault  you don't have time to correct the sets coming up to the trigger mileage before they too fail.

If it is the engines MTU must be in panic as their reputation for reliability could be at stake.

Lets hope the Turbos stand up to the extra work otherewise FGW is going to be in a mess.

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