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« on: January 28, 2009, 09:58:21 »

In yesterday^s Mail there was an article covering a number of handy tips to reduce the cost of rail travel, and included examples of split purchasing and the CIV (International Convention for the transportation of Passengers (lit. Convention Internationale pour le transport des Voyageurs)) option when buying Eurostar tickets.

They have all been discussed in various topics here, but would it may be of value if a sticky could be created here to save casual visitors trawling through older posts, and possibly asking members similar questions.

Unfortunately it wasn^t my copy of the paper but if any members have yesterdays paper (or have access to the online version) it may be useful to duplicate it here.
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 20:11:51 »

Thanks for posting that, tramway.

Unfortunately, we have copyright issues if we were to quote (or reproduce) the whole article here.

However, I can offer a link to the Daily Mail's website version of that particular article, at http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1128484/The-page-saves-money-Keep-spending-track-cheaper-train-fares.html

Chris.  Wink
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 20:33:32 »

The National Express East Coast discount is only for National Express East Coast Advance fares.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 21:17:27 »

There's a good guide available on the Chester-le-Track website at http://www.chester-le-track.co.uk/6946_CLT_June08-2.pdf.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 22:53:58 »

The National Express East Coast discount is only for National Express East Coast Advance fares.

And may not even apply any more. I did not apparently get the discount when I booked an NXEC (National Express East Coast) advance fare from LDS to KGX the other day, using their website.

The suggestion "try calling on your way to the station" is idiotic, given that even if you opt to collect tickets from a FastTicket machine there's a time delay of around 2 hours before your journey details are uploaded.

It's a typical piece of lazy Daily Mail bilge IMHO ('in my humble opinion'). Money-saving tips: "consider all options", "avoid peak prices" and "look out for special offers".

No sh*t.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2009, 10:29:07 »

The National Express East Coast discount is only for National Express East Coast Advance fares.

And may not even apply any more. I did not apparently get the discount when I booked an NXEC (National Express East Coast) advance fare from LDS to KGX the other day, using their website.


You wouldn't, it has fdefinitely finished. Apparently it was meant to be an introductory discount to encourage use of their website. It worked, so it's ended.

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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2009, 11:34:55 »

Chris

I did look on the Mail website honest, but couldn^t find the article to post the link.  Sad

You are right ^duplicate^ was probably the wrong expression, but there are certainly elements that I thought were worth repeating that are frequently posted by members in response to questions. I^m unsure how many casual users browse this area looking for info when the majority of the time all they require is this advice.

I_B, I^m no fan of the Mail either, and I^m sure it could be improved with input from the experts here if it was considered a worthwhile exercise.

Perhaps the answer is just some useful links if there is a definitive guide, I^ll admit that I hadn^t come across the Chester site previously, or if so had completely forgotten about it, and of course NXEC (National Express East Coast) has to be the best for comparison purposes.

I^m sure there will always be obscure CoC (Chamber of Commerce) questions that can only be answered by the experts.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2009, 17:08:50 »

I_B, I^m no fan of the Mail either, and I^m sure it could be improved with input from the experts here if it was considered a worthwhile exercise.

Perhaps the answer is just some useful links if there is a definitive guide, I^ll admit that I hadn^t come across the Chester site previously, or if so had completely forgotten about it, and of course NXEC (National Express East Coast) has to be the best for comparison purposes.

tramway, apologies if I was a little flippant in my post last night. It wasn't meant to be construed as an attack on the idea of providing a money saving guide which is entirely admirable! I was not in a good mood when I got home yesterday and I think it shows. Sorry.

As far as obscure CoC (Chamber of Commerce) questions go I've found in the past that knowing the CoC is not a lot of use in many situations because some rail staff don't (or pretend that they don't to avoid having to assist!). My worst experience of this was a journey from Bristol to Whitland on a day when ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former Train Operating Company)) had an acute driver shortage and was operating no service west of Carmarthen.

The ATW duty manager at Swansea refused to provide any assistance to get me home from CMN, even though I had been sold a ticket and therefore under the CoC he was obliged to get me there. I ended up forking out for a taxi (^30!) and had a long battle to reclaim the fare from ATW.

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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2009, 17:15:22 »

Why don't we (as a forum) pool all of our knowledge in a post, which can then be "stuck" for casual visitors to see?

I bet with the range of people here, we could get pretty impressive advice for people!
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 17:22:05 »

Why don't we (as a forum) pool all of our knowledge in a post, which can then be "stuck" for casual visitors to see?

I bet with the range of people here, we could get pretty impressive advice for people!

That's great thinking.

I used to be an advocate for using the National Express East Coast website to book tickets, but seeing recent news about them potentially pulling out of running trains altogether, I shall no longer press for that to be the first piece of good advice.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 17:56:39 »

Great Idea. Let's vote in Relex 109 to proof-read and edit written material. Grin
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2009, 18:08:12 »

They have won awards for that website! I do hope another TOC (Train Operating Company) buys the software, because it is VERY good.

Where shall we start this list? A new thread, or this one?
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 21:11:25 »

Right - there are lots of excellent ideas here, which I agree we ought to be able to progress - as a public resource - provided by this forum!

If I may suggest a new topic, devoted entirely to such 'hints and tips' for our public audience (possibly avoiding jokes at poor relex109's expense - as he says, he went to Sidmouth College: give him a break! Grin )?

I'll undertake a quick 'confer' with the admin team here, on the format of a new board offering general advice on 'saving money on train tickets' - and I'll probably end up with the task of writing it myself!  Roll Eyes Grin
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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 21:42:54 »

I'll probably end up with the task of writing it myself!  Roll Eyes Grin

This is the best idea I've heard yet!
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 21:55:32 »

Just for the benefit of our members here ... you wouldn't believe the amount of support I've received, from my fellow moderators - if only on the work allocation aspect! Shocked
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