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« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2009, 16:46:47 » |
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The shopless voyager looks no different outside to a shopped voyager so Sda you must be faced with a bit of a problem second guessing what variety of voyager it is.
Incidentally you would have thought the things would have been built to just be able to slot in another carriage to make them bigger, although i dont think this is very easy to acheive
It isn't, a couple of years ago when Virgin were operating XC▸ a five car SuperVoyager caught fire in one of the centre carriages I believe. They still wanted to use the train so it had to be converted to a four car unit. which means reconfiguring the onboard computer system. Which, I'm told, is a little tempermental |
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2009, 16:54:05 » |
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The shopless voyager looks no different outside to a shopped voyager so Sda you must be faced with a bit of a problem second guessing what variety of voyager it is.
Incidentally you would have thought the things would have been built to just be able to slot in another carriage to make them bigger, although i dont think this is very easy to acheive
Shopless Vomits have a blue strip on the coupler. |
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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2009, 17:02:39 » |
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The shopless voyager looks no different outside to a shopped voyager so Sda you must be faced with a bit of a problem second guessing what variety of voyager it is.
Incidentally you would have thought the things would have been built to just be able to slot in another carriage to make them bigger, although i dont think this is very easy to acheive
It isn't, a couple of years ago when Virgin were operating XC▸ a five car SuperVoyager caught fire in one of the centre carriages I believe. They still wanted to use the train so it had to be converted to a four car unit. which means reconfiguring the onboard computer system. Which, I'm told, is a little tempermental Wonder though if adding would be more problematic than removing |
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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2009, 20:05:03 » |
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The shopless voyager looks no different outside to a shopped voyager so Sda you must be faced with a bit of a problem second guessing what variety of voyager it is.
Incidentally you would have thought the things would have been built to just be able to slot in another carriage to make them bigger, although i dont think this is very easy to acheive
The 'tow bar' (as I call it  ) at the front/rear of the voyager is normally yellow for first class A and black for quiet coach F. The refreshed versions have a strip of blue down the middle of the bar, so as it splutters in you can see, and obviously there is the cycle logo on the side of coach D. I was told by XC▸ that they would put "XC Refreshed Voyager" on the CIS▸ to let us know, however that's as reliable as FC‡ at the front/rear. |
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« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2009, 20:16:24 » |
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They should not have re- painted the trains until they were re-furbed.
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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2009, 20:18:16 » |
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They should not have re- painted the trains until they were re-furbed.
Agreed, It just confuses people. |
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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2009, 21:29:16 » |
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I have firmly come to the conclusion that the majority of people on The Coffee Shop don't like them...  Maybe we should create an XC▸ Rant Thread...  |
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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2009, 21:55:10 » |
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Just a minor point, but all the toilets stayed put during the refit because it was decided it would be far too complicated to try to remove one.
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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2009, 22:08:02 » |
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My understanding of the XC▸ refurbishments was that they were planning to take out the onboard shop and a toilet.
The toilet removal was cancelled almost as soon after it was first mentioned. It was certainly not included in the AXC» website page 'our plans' when they took over the franchise in Dec 2007, although the shop removal was shown. Paul |
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2009, 22:16:43 » |
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The toilet removal was cancelled almost as soon after it was first mentioned. It was certainly not included in the AXC» website page 'our plans' when they took over the franchise in Dec 2007, although the shop removal was shown.
Paul
Oh right, fair enough. Apologies for any confusion  Removing a loo would be a bad idea anyway, we don't want a fiasco like FTPE» ... |
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« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2009, 22:27:40 » |
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Did they perhaps consider removing the buffet but adding another toilet in lieu? Sorry ... I'll get my coat. |
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« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2009, 22:57:55 » |
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They should not have re- painted the trains until they were re-furbed.
Agreed, It just confuses people. No, it just confuses train spotters; 99% of the passengers don't give a monkey's what colour their train is. And a significant proportion still think they're run by Virgin... |
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« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2009, 23:06:57 » |
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But given that the refurbed and unrefurbed trains have significantly different internal layouts, particularly as regards cycle storage, it would have made life easier for platform staff!
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« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2009, 12:17:34 » |
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But given that the refurbed and unrefurbed trains have significantly different internal layouts, particularly as regards cycle storage, it would have made life easier for platform staff!
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« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2009, 18:12:26 » |
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Yes, I meant platform staff.
And train users who know what's what.
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