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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2009, 02:33:43 »

If services to High Wycome are to be considered, then redouble Old Oak junction to Ruislip and reinstate the through lines at Denham and Beaconsfield (pity it's too late at Gerrards X) - the fast lines ought to be reinstated anyway if Chiltern want to run a fast Oxford srvice via Bicester. 

Isn't it too late at Denham now? I thought the recent rebuild put the up platform on the old through lines?
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2009, 21:23:28 »

Oh well, you're probably right - haven't been on that line for a few years. So why does an enlightened TOC (Train Operating Company) like Chiltern take out high speed capacity just when they're planning more fast services? Barmy.

Assuming the space is still there you could add High Wycombe and Princes Risborough to my list.
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2009, 22:54:06 »

If services to High Wycome are to be considered, then redouble Old Oak junction to Ruislip and reinstate the through lines at Denham and Beaconsfield (pity it's too late at Gerrards X) - the fast lines ought to be reinstated anyway if Chiltern want to run a fast Oxford srvice via Bicester. 

Why is it too late at Gerrards Cross? Even the Tesco website emphasises that the tunnel is sized for four tracks, even if platforms might need shifting...

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After what happened, would you want to risk four tracks under that thing? The poisoned legacy of Railtrack lives on...
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2009, 22:58:56 »

That Tesco store should be bulldozed to the ground!

None of the locals wanted it, Chiltern/NR» (Network Rail - home page) didn't want it and it was built in an area which is meant to be green-belt.

I wonder how many local shops will close due to it? Cry

The other thing Tesco have scuppered is improvements to Worcester Foregate Street station. They out-bid the council and bought the adjacent ex-Post Office building. So instead of a new, expanded station, (what Worcester needs) we have yet another supermarket! (what Worcester, and the two local newagents DON'T need) Angry
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2009, 00:05:46 »

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That Tesco store should be bulldozed to the ground!

Carefully, I hope.

Well, since the great collapse, they have got an M&S food shop and Waitrose are said to be looking for a site - rather less local opposition to that one in Gerrards Cross!

And it will only be the sixth Tesco in Worcester - I'm sure there's room for a few more...

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2009, 09:37:36 »

If services to High Wycome are to be considered, then redouble Old Oak junction to Ruislip and reinstate the through lines at Denham and Beaconsfield (pity it's too late at Gerrards X) - the fast lines ought to be reinstated anyway if Chiltern want to run a fast Oxford srvice via Bicester. 

Isn't it too late at Denham now? I thought the recent rebuild put the up platform on the old through lines?

I believe a loop in the  Denham area is still on the cards as are others along the line. However, as
I understand it they  will be dynamic bi directional loops so that instead of four tracks there will be three.

Re Gerrads Cross probably best to leave tunnel where it is pull down the steel structure that was to be Tesvos  and use site as an extra car park for the town/station.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2009, 12:13:42 »

And it will only be the sixth Tesco in Worcester - I'm sure there's room for a few more...

Actually it is even worse - at least the 7th - 2 big; 4 express; and now Foregate St
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2009, 23:36:45 »

I was relying on their website's store finder, which only admits to five.
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2009, 16:06:32 »

I was relying on their website's store finder, which only admits to five.

ooooooooo nasty closet tescos they are the worse type you never know when you'll fall into one.

There are many former railway yards etc that were sold off by BR (British Rail(ways)) it was really the only way BR had to fund resignalling, new trains etc due to the way DoTp worked, RT well they just needed money for the bubbly at the share holders meeting, now in a number of place the railway actually could do with the land back ............ think thats called foresightedness and progress
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2009, 20:49:32 »

Now on another topic, it's been pointed out (totally unfairly, of course) that Hereford is small City not worthy of fast trains to London - but we do merit two Tescos, one Sainsburys, one M&S food hall, one Morrisons, one Aldi, one Lidl and a Waitrose rumoured.
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2009, 21:00:45 »

Paignton gets 2 trains a day to London and we have 1 large Sainsburys, 1 large Morrisons, 2 Somerfields, 1 Tesco Metro, 1 Iceland and god knows how many Co-Ops.

I don't think we should use supermarkets to compare the needs of travellers :p
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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2009, 10:09:18 »

Paignton gets 2 trains a day to London and we have 1 large Sainsburys, 1 large Morrisons, 2 Somerfields, 1 Tesco Metro, 1 Iceland and god knows how many Co-Ops.

I don't think we should use supermarkets to compare the needs of travellers :p

Too many supermarkets could  be a good reason to get away from these towns, the problem is where do you go to get away from them?
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2009, 16:01:49 »

Too many supermarkets could  be a good reason to get away from these towns, the problem is where do you go to get away from them?

Why not try Hanborough? Frequent long distance trains aimed at the park-and-ride market and only a lovely small Co-Op for those essential supplies, eh Will?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2009, 22:38:22 »

And Evesham has a Co-op where the old Midland station was (oh and a ghastly Tesco nearby - at least it's not over the railway).
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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2009, 20:44:59 »

The other thing Tesco have scuppered is improvements to Worcester Foregate Street station. They out-bid the council and bought the adjacent ex-Post Office building. So instead of a new, expanded station, (what Worcester needs) we have yet another supermarket! (what Worcester, and the two local newagents DON'T need) Angry

Yes a missed opportunity possibly.  Especially since a large amount of land in the vicinity of the station has also been redeveloped recently.  With a bit of forethought they could have at least safeguarded some space for improvement of the railway station.

I have to admit though that enlarging Foregate street would have been prohibitively expensive even if all the adjacent land was up for redevelopment.

P.S. Sorry for going a bit off topic but Worcester is west of Crossrail...
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