|
Chris from Nailsea
|
 |
« Reply #120 on: January 26, 2009, 17:07:44 » |
|
Thanks for that very informative post, Network SouthEast - and a warm welcome to the FGW▸ Coffee Shop forum!    |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
|
|
|
|
thetrout
|
|
« Reply #121 on: January 26, 2009, 17:28:23 » |
|
Might not be strictly related, The 1630 London Padd - Taunton, once terminated at Taunton, runs empty to Laira. No Staff or passengers onboard. and To the comment about the guard not being able to get back onto the train to dispatch, it does happen. I saw it at Bath Spa with a mid evening Portsmouth Harbour service during the Christmas Shopping season. A 5 Car was indeed a 2 Car unit, now imagine the mayhem that caused...  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Ollie
|
|
« Reply #122 on: January 26, 2009, 18:33:07 » |
|
The 1630 London Padd - Taunton, once terminated at Taunton, runs empty to Laira. No Staff or passengers onboard.
I would hope there is at least one member of staff on board |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
thetrout
|
|
« Reply #123 on: January 26, 2009, 18:41:06 » |
|
I would hope there is at least one member of staff on board There is to Taunton, Then all of the passengers and staff get off, and as I said, it runs empty to Laira |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
devon_metro
|
|
« Reply #124 on: January 26, 2009, 18:42:57 » |
|
I think Ollie is referring to a driver |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Btline
|
|
« Reply #125 on: January 26, 2009, 21:04:16 » |
|
Netowork South East,
Thanks for your reply. Why are guards not allowed to use the front door panels?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
dog box
|
|
« Reply #126 on: January 26, 2009, 21:12:19 » |
|
front door panels are not a safe position, as general rule guards should despatch from rear of the train
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
All postings reflect my own personal views and opinions and are not intended to be, nor should be taken as official statements of first great western or first group policy
|
|
|
|
Network SouthEast
|
|
« Reply #127 on: January 26, 2009, 21:12:46 » |
|
I might have not communicated it as good as I could have. The guard can use the front door control panel as long as it is within the passenger area. If it involves going into the drivers cab, then the rulebook does not permit this. I presume this is so that drivers are not distracted.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Network SouthEast
|
|
« Reply #128 on: January 26, 2009, 21:19:52 » |
|
as general rule guards should despatch from rear of the train
I disagree with that. You should dispatch from wherever you have the best view. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Btline
|
|
« Reply #129 on: January 26, 2009, 21:21:06 » |
|
On LM▸ 150s, the front panel is not IN the drivers cab (but in the "staff only" section).
But guards never use it - even if they are stuck at the front selling a ticket when the train pulls up.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Chris from Nailsea
|
|
« Reply #130 on: January 26, 2009, 22:25:59 » |
|
On ... 150s, the front panel is not IN the drivers cab (but in the "staff only" section).
My apologies for quoting selectively from your post, Btline, but this is something that does annoy me - almost every time we have a 150 on the 1755 at BTM▸ for NLS, for example! The doors immediately behind the cab on a 150 used to be marked quite clearly, 'staff access only'. However, since the refurb, these doors merely continue the 'dynamic lines' advertising of various local attractions in the FGW▸ area. The problem is, that just encourages a few impatient passengers to try to push their way on board through that doorway, while the incoming driver is trying to hand over to the relief driver - and both of those staff then have to point out to those selfish passengers that the cab door is actually intended 'for staff only'! Why did the refurb not include the replication of those 'staff access only' messages on the doors?? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
|
|
|
|
Btline
|
|
« Reply #131 on: January 26, 2009, 22:53:59 » |
|
Those Dynamic lines are the priority!
Trains late, staff in the wrong place, fares going up...
But as long as First can splash dynamic lines on, it'll be ok!
I wonder if they'll give up the Scotrail franchise, now it has to have the Saltaire livery (I would put money on the main reason for this new livery being introduced is the prevention of dynamic lines being applied!).
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
willc
|
|
« Reply #132 on: January 26, 2009, 23:48:38 » |
|
I wonder if they'll give up the Scotrail franchise, now it has to have the Saltaire livery (I would put money on the main reason for this new livery being introduced is the prevention of dynamic lines being applied!). That would be Saltire, I take it - I'm not sure Alex Salmond wants to promote a mill and model village in the heart of Yorkshire, worthy of celebration though it is. The Scottish Executive has ordered the livery is used to stop vast amounts of money being wasted on repainting trains and rebranding stations every time the Scotrail franchise changes hands. How about bringing back InterCity - the brand we invented that is now used everywhere but Britain - NSE▸ and Regional Railways liveries too.... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
thetrout
|
|
« Reply #133 on: January 27, 2009, 16:24:23 » |
|
I think Ollie is referring to a driver DOH!!! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Btline
|
|
« Reply #134 on: January 27, 2009, 20:29:37 » |
|
No - I think the cost is a cover up. If I were Salmond and I sensed that dynamic lines could be appearing soon, I was pass a similar law! Unfortunately, FTPE» have contaminated Scotland with them...... certain red trains
Is that SWT▸ Metro? There are worse! Pink doors on XC▸ !  Arriva (enough said!) Trains Wales' blue. Merseyrail canary! 'one' (errrghh) NX - white which is now grey (I wonder why..... ). |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Click on the map to explore geographics
