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« on: January 05, 2009, 13:36:44 »

With the 5 ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) 150/2s due back in June a second set is rumoured to be on the cards, this time utilising ex Virgin class 57 Thimderbirds, as used on the Wagex between Cardiff and Holyhead
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 14:26:02 »

This should be interesting Smiley

Is this to operate routes around the Bristol area?
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 17:13:24 »

This should be interesting Smiley

Is this to operate routes around the Bristol area?

No it's just another RUMOUR
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 17:29:56 »

too many lines which network rail class as fragile on route 12 and those that arnt are stop start which im sure d m will agree with isnt ideal for locos, not sure about route 13 unless its another one for taunton to cardiff, the only reason i can see is the summer jobbie to wemouth but as already stated most likly not going to happen
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 20:11:44 »

I've heard on the reliable grapevine that another loco hauled set may be used in Cornwall from May, it is just something that is being looked into though and not definate.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2009, 21:06:22 »

why can the locos for the sleeper not be used in the day? would only need the coaches then
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2009, 21:35:19 »

I suppose the money FGW (First Great Western) save from not hiring the ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) 150s can be used to hire another loco set. I read somewhere that Dft are funding the cost of the current loco hauled set operating Cardiff-Taunton until May after which time FGW will have to pay for it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 15:55:22 »

I suppose the money FGW (First Great Western) save from not hiring the ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) 150s can be used to hire another loco set. I read somewhere that Dft are funding the cost of the current loco hauled set operating Cardiff-Taunton until May after which time FGW will have to pay for it.

Chances are they won't keep it up for much longer after that then.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2009, 21:31:18 »

why can the locos for the sleeper not be used in the day? would only need the coaches then

Why not just uncouple the seated vehicles (including BSO (Brake Standard Open (carriage))) off the back of the sleepers and use them as day coaches?

As others have posted all RUMORS at the moment. And highly unlikely ones in my view.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 22:05:07 »

why can the locos for the sleeper not be used in the day? would only need the coaches then

Why not just uncouple the seated vehicles (including BSO (Brake Standard Open (carriage))) off the back of the sleepers and use them as day coaches?

As others have posted all RUMORS at the moment. And highly unlikely ones in my view.

having never been on the sleeper i wasnt aware of the seating configuration, as for the rumors i agree, hear all trust nothing  Wink
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2009, 17:36:21 »

A seated sleeper coach only has 48 seats.
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 15:48:53 »

This should be interesting Smiley

Is this to operate routes around the Bristol area?

No it's just another RUMOUR

One of the best inane rumors doing the rounds at the moment is Loco Haulage and the Exmouth branch. Network Rail have replaced the lineside signs on the branch with the type that show a differential speed restriction that displays the line speeds for Loco's / LHCS (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock) and DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit)'s. The restriction of 30mph has exisited for some time for Loco's / LHCS but not shown on the lineside signage. Because of this apparent expenditure it has been taken as read that Loco's / LHCS will be used on the Exmouth line. Nobody actually gave much thought to the fact that a round trip at 30mph with the guard leaping out and slamming doors etc is going to play merry hell with the half hourly schedule. You would be luck to manage a round trip in an hour. Funniest thing I heard this week.   
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 17:55:16 »

This should be interesting Smiley

Is this to operate routes around the Bristol area?

No it's just another RUMOUR

One of the best inane rumors doing the rounds at the moment is Loco Haulage and the Exmouth branch. Network Rail have replaced the lineside signs on the branch with the type that show a differential speed restriction that displays the line speeds for Loco's / LHCS (Locomotive Hauled Coaching Stock) and DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit)'s. The restriction of 30mph has exisited for some time for Loco's / LHCS but not shown on the lineside signage. Because of this apparent expenditure it has been taken as read that Loco's / LHCS will be used on the Exmouth line. Nobody actually gave much thought to the fact that a round trip at 30mph with the guard leaping out and slamming doors etc is going to play merry hell with the half hourly schedule. You would be luck to manage a round trip in an hour. Funniest thing I heard this week.   
A bit like how the HST (High Speed Train) boards they installed some months back at Bedminster and Parson St don't mean we'll be getting through trains to London appearing in the timetable. I imagine that in both cases it's for flexibility in case of DMU failures.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 18:06:29 »

A bit like how the HST (High Speed Train) boards they installed some months back at Bedminster and Parson St don't mean we'll be getting through trains to London appearing in the timetable. I imagine that in both cases it's for flexibility in case of DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) failures.
More probably in the case of the Exmouth branch as a result of some engineering jobbie making rapid progress down the branch and when challenged professing ignorance of the 30mph restriction for non MU (Multiple Unit) trains.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 19:52:48 »

when was the last time a loco went down the exmouth branch? including departmental
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