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« on: January 02, 2009, 16:49:16 »
In the palmy days of yore, we were content with lifting the terms pizza and pasta from our Italian friends and considering ourselves ever so 'continental'.  A few more adventurous souls in the trendier parts of Wiltshire even went on to have grissini bread sticks on their tables.  However, the appearance of  panini seems to be posing the odd linguistic problem or two.

Panini is a plural form in its native Italian.  There is and can be no such thing as a panini.  The term that 95% of 'fashionable' (non Italian), eateries and of course, the catering department at FGW▸ (First Great Western) are striving for is panino. 

Now English has a reputation for absorbing words from other languages.  After all, where would we be without  shampoo and bungalow, Ombudsman or kindergarten?

The question is...Shall we continue to abuse the Italian language and stick with a panini, (confident that its origin will be lost in the mists of time, thus rendering accademic its incorrect usage)?   Or shall we make a New Year resolution and placatory gesture towards the language of Verdi, Puccini and Botticelli, by adopting the correct panino for a single Latin influenced sarnie and pannini if we are feeling peckish and ordering more than 1? After all, no one asks for a pizze... do they?
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2009, 17:18:44 »
I would have thought that the singular would be "panninus" (from Latin gr 2 endings).
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2009, 17:33:46 »
cue TerminalJunkie??  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2009, 21:09:01 »
Perch^ dovrebbe la cura di I; la maggior parte di voi non pu^ usare correttamente l'inglese, mai non si occupa dell'italiano.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 00:59:03 »
Quote from: TerminalJunkie on January 02, 2009, 21:09:01
Perch^ dovrebbe la cura di I; la maggior parte di voi non pu^ usare correttamente l'inglese, mai non si occupa dell'italiano.

Tut tut... your English isn't very good is it? Wink
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2009, 07:13:07 »
Quote from: TerminalJunkie on January 02, 2009, 21:09:01
Perch^ dovrebbe la cura di I; la maggior parte di voi non pu^ usare correttamente l'inglese, mai non si occupa dell'italiano.

Cue relex 109. Grin
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 17:19:39 »
It's like forum, the correct Latin plural is fora but forums is more widely used.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 18:09:42 »
Except Pannini is not neuter.
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 07:50:22 »
According to the Oxford English Dictionary...

forum n. (pl. forums)

1) a meeting or medium for an exchange of views.

2) (pl. fora) (in an ancient Roman city) a public square or marketplace used for judicial and other business. Origin ME: from Latin, lit. what is out of doors.


panino n. (pl. panini)

Short for Italian panino (imbottito), stuffed bread, sandwich : panino, diminutive of pane, bread + imbottito, past participle of imbottire, to stuff.


Sadly, 'Get imbottired!'  would also be incorrect.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 14:16:11 »
A sandwich shop in Cardiff has a sign that says "Baguettes and Pennines".

Is a Pennine a northern version of a Panini?
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 16:37:40 »
Quote from: Tim on January 09, 2009, 14:16:11
A sandwich shop in Cardiff has a sign that says "Baguettes and Pennines".

Is a Pennine a northern version of a Panini?



ha ha haaa!!
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 16:50:23 »
Quote from: Tim on January 09, 2009, 14:16:11
A sandwich shop in Cardiff has a sign that says "Baguettes and Pennines".

Is a Pennine a northern version of a Panini?



More than likely. Unless the term they are looking for is Apennine. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 17:45:53 »
I caught the Transpanini Express once.

I recovered though.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 18:21:18 »
Quote from: bemmy on January 09, 2009, 17:45:53
I caught the Transpanini Express once.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 21:09:02 »
Quote from: Tim on January 09, 2009, 14:16:11
A sandwich shop in Cardiff has a sign that says "Baguettes and Pennines".

Is a Pennine a northern version of a Panini?



Obviously not run by ATW▸ (Arriva Trains Wales (former Train Operating Company)) else it would have the Welsh in front of it.  Grin
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