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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2008, 21:29:32 » |
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Virgin did that to it's buffets!
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Cheers Jim  AG's most famous quote "It'll be better next week" |
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2008, 22:51:42 » |
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Pop quiz It's 1750 on a weekday, your nearest 2+8 HST▸ with a 407xx series buffet car has just left Reading for Paddington... What you gonna use for the 1803 Paddington to Penzance...  |
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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2008, 22:57:42 » |
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With the way some of the drivers drive it is no wonder as to why they loose time at every single station!
Not impressed with this statemment ! The majority of time lost at stations is due to passengers all herding into one door and/or leaving them open ! I presume you refer to speed on approach ? many factors influence this, railhead conditions, RED SIGNAL at the end of the platform (I'm sure you'd prefer a slower approach rather than cancelled train due to SPAD▸ ! ) too fast an approach requires heavier braking resulting in passengers falling into each other, crowded platforms with people leaning over the edge.... etc. etc I could go on Unless you have actually driven a train I suggest you are not in a position to criticise, the majority of Driver's are professionals who take pride in what they do. Thank You.. Happy New Year ! |
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 09:29:35 » |
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Pop quiz It's 1750 on a weekday, your nearest 2+8 HST▸ with a 407xx series buffet car has just left Reading for Paddington... What you gonna use for the 1803 Paddington to Penzance... A set thats in Padd??? |
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2008, 09:32:28 » |
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1. Is due to passengers all herding into one door and/or leaving them open !
2. many factors influence this, railhead conditions, RED SIGNAL at the end of the platform (I'm sure you'd prefer a slower approach rather than cancelled train due to SPAD▸ ! )
4. the majority of Driver's are professionals who take pride in what they do.
1. Don't start me on that - there are so many stations which everyone has to get in 1 door at! To name a few examples where it happens: Chippenham Westbury Swindon (P4) Reading 2. Westbury is a sod for that one! P3 to Up Main is approch controlled - worse still if it don't change the back of the train is not in the platform 3. Yep, and rightly so! |
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2008, 10:38:55 » |
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With the way some of the drivers drive it is no wonder as to why they loose time at every single station!
Not impressed with this statemment ! The majority of time lost at stations is due to passengers all herding into one door and/or leaving them open ! I presume you refer to speed on approach ? many factors influence this, railhead conditions, RED SIGNAL at the end of the platform (I'm sure you'd prefer a slower approach rather than cancelled train due to SPAD▸ ! ) too fast an approach requires heavier braking resulting in passengers falling into each other, crowded platforms with people leaning over the edge.... etc. etc I could go on Unless you have actually driven a train I suggest you are not in a position to criticise, the majority of Driver's are professionals who take pride in what they do. Thank You.. Happy New Year ! Yes true, perhaps some of it is down to FGW▸ , for example Reading - Swindon being timetabled at 110 mph running! |
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2008, 13:35:28 » |
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Just for info, the 07.51 Paddington to Great Malvern and 11.06 return has been operated most of the week by a seven-car, non-buffet HST▸ , with trolley service.
Reasonably punctual westbound, though that probably has more to do with scanty passenger numbers towards Worcester at this time of the day than any reduction in train weight.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2008, 13:38:44 » |
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Just for info, the 07.51 Paddington to Great Malvern and 11.06 return has been operated most of the week by a seven-car, non-buffet HST▸ , with trolley service.
Reasonably punctual westbound, though that probably has more to do with scanty passenger numbers towards Worcester at this time of the day than any reduction in train weight.
Worked a 2+7 the other day (with a buffet-no coach E!) in Cornwall on a train that we usually lose time on and we were early into every station! |
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2008, 17:09:40 » |
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Western HST▸ fleet were built as 2 + 7 train sets, the East coast fleet 2 + 8 but worked a much flatter route for the greater part.
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2008, 17:12:01 » |
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Western HST▸ fleet were built as 2 + 7 train sets, the East coast fleet 2 + 8 but worked a much flatter route for the greater part.
They were however soon made up to 2+8, with the cross country sets as 2+7. |
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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2008, 17:33:48 » |
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Some East Coast sets also had back to back buffets.
Formed: TF, TF, TRFB▸ , TRFB, TS, TS, TS, TS, TS
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2008, 23:19:58 » |
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Just for info, the 07.51 Paddington to Great Malvern and 11.06 return has been operated most of the week by a seven-car, non-buffet HST▸ , with trolley service.
Reasonably punctual westbound, though that probably has more to do with scanty passenger numbers towards Worcester at this time of the day than any reduction in train weight.
Whatr sort of service do first class get? Or are we expected to wander to Carriage A to hunt down the trolley Not something that is acceptable |
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Ditched former sig - now I need to think of something amusing - brain hurts -I'll steal from the master himself - Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
"Gravitation is not responsible for people falling in love"
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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2008, 23:31:26 » |
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Sorry to wonder into the middle of the topic, just a simple question here that really has nothing to do with this topic.
When you say something like 2+7 or 2+8 about the HST▸ 's, do you mean two power cars and 7/8 charrages?
They shouldn't get rid of buffet cars or anything... another question, do trolley's work on HST's at all?
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 09:47:59 » |
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Just for info, the 07.51 Paddington to Great Malvern and 11.06 return has been operated most of the week by a seven-car, non-buffet HST▸ , with trolley service.
Reasonably punctual westbound, though that probably has more to do with scanty passenger numbers towards Worcester at this time of the day than any reduction in train weight.
Whatr sort of service do first class get? Or are we expected to wander to Carriage A to hunt down the trolley Not something that is acceptable No, First Class get their own trolley, so you don't need to wander into 'scum' class  |
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 13:41:50 » |
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Sorry to wonder into the middle of the topic, just a simple question here that really has nothing to do with this topic.
When you say something like 2+7 or 2+8 about the HST▸ 's, do you mean two power cars and 7/8 charrages?
They shouldn't get rid of buffet cars or anything... another question, do trolley's work on HST's at all?
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