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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 11:40:22 »

Gosh!  32 passengers at Coombe, 2006/07 HuhHuhHuhHuhHuh  Grin

And the service they are provided with runs to 3 trains a day each way to and from Liskeard.

Which is more than we get at Melksham.

I can only imagine there's someone on the Board of FGW (First Great Western) lives down that way?

The "three trains each way" is the current service, but in the year in question we had the big change (December '06) ... how many trains were there prior to that?

Continuing your comparison, Phil, Melksham had 22000 rather that 32 passengers that year, with a service that was dropped from 5 trains each way to 2.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2008, 23:58:09 »

There were 2 trains prior to "12/06", one thing to point out though, Coombe really is THE most pointless station in the UK (United Kingdom), it was only ever built as a platform to "change ends" in steam days and it serves nothing! there's not even any road access!
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 00:10:05 »

It's brilliant, vacman!

See http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/coe/localarea.html

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2008, 09:25:08 »

I note the "service disruption" has gone from the FGW (First Great Western) front page, and the National Rail site has just regular station details. Is Coombe back in service with trains calling again, 3 times a day, each way?
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2008, 16:10:56 »

Yes.  Small part of the platform is now available for use.  Passengers must alight from the front of the train and only one door is opened.
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2008, 02:26:23 »

Puts me in mind of Berney Arms on the Reedham route of the  Norwich-Yarmouth line. Nearest road is 2 miles away.

http://www.berneyarms.co.uk/html/berneyarms/railway/berney_railway1.htm
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« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2008, 12:20:55 »

Puts me in mind of Berney Arms on the Reedham route of the  Norwich-Yarmouth line. Nearest road is 2 miles away.

http://www.berneyarms.co.uk/html/berneyarms/railway/berney_railway1.htm


Yes but how far to the Nearest Pub?? Tongue Tongue

It's a remote Station, but so is the Pub which gets it's beer by boat I believe.
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2008, 12:45:53 »

There were 2 trains prior to "12/06", one thing to point out though, Coombe really is THE most pointless station in the UK (United Kingdom), it was only ever built as a platform to "change ends" in steam days and it serves nothing! there's not even any road access!

The platform at Coombe was built as the freight transfer point between the Liskeard & Caradon Railway (bringing ore from the Cheesewring area) and the Looe & Liskeard Canal but in 1860 the Railway was extended to Looe, the railway built in many places on top of the canal.
1st January 1916 the Railway north of Moorswater was abandoned.

What Coombe should be is the reversal point of all Liskeard-Looe Trains with points & signals operated remotely by Liskeard Box instead of all the time wasted by train crew operating points at coombe and then locking the Looe train onto the Looe branch and setting the point to Looe against the train.

A regular Hourly service could run calling at all stations in the summer but for the hastle of coombe operations.
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2008, 22:40:27 »

There were 2 trains prior to "12/06", one thing to point out though, Coombe really is THE most pointless station in the UK (United Kingdom), it was only ever built as a platform to "change ends" in steam days and it serves nothing! there's not even any road access!

The platform at Coombe was built as the freight transfer point between the Liskeard & Caradon Railway (bringing ore from the Cheesewring area) and the Looe & Liskeard Canal but in 1860 the Railway was extended to Looe, the railway built in many places on top of the canal.
1st January 1916 the Railway north of Moorswater was abandoned.

What Coombe should be is the reversal point of all Liskeard-Looe Trains with points & signals operated remotely by Liskeard Box instead of all the time wasted by train crew operating points at coombe and then locking the Looe train onto the Looe branch and setting the point to Looe against the train.

A regular Hourly service could run calling at all stations in the summer but for the hastle of coombe operations.
A regular hourlyclockface timetable was trialled on the line a couple of years ago and the operational timings worked fine, problem was that being clockface it didn't connect into or out of anything with branch trains leaving 2 mins before mainline trains arrived etc, fine on linse such as St Ives where the service is half hourly but when you have to wait 57 minutes in the cold then you'll find other arrangements! the service is now near hourly but connects quite well with mainline trains. that said, it would save a lot of arseing about if the points were controlled from Liskeard box but at the time of rationalisation - the closure of Coombe box - it was far cheaper to retain token instruments and "Stop boards", who know's, it may have been this cost saving that actually prevented the branch from closing??? I spose we'll never know, but Looe is one of those lines that makes you wonder why Beeching didn't get his way and close it as it's never busy, even in summer it's quite compared to other Cornish branches but thank goodness it is still here for us to enjoy!
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2008, 10:26:21 »

I've seen it on a few summer weekdays rammed from end to end to match the worst of Bristol commuting (except more pushcairs and distressed children), so it can get quite busy in the school holidays.
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« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2008, 10:40:10 »

Both St Ives & Looe Branches came within Days of Closure, but the New Labour Government elected with a New Plan for Railways saved the day when Babs Castle MP (Member of Parliament) announced that BOTH branches were saved.

Nothing to do with the fact that same MP had holiday home in St Ives or Looe?

As a small point in the VERY same speech the Death Sentence was passed on the Bodmin Road-Bodmin-Wadebridge-Padstow line.

Now that's a line that should never have gone?

Trains to Padstow on May 1st would be meggar busy.
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2008, 18:12:50 »

Both St Ives & Looe Branches came within Days of Closure, but the New Labour Government elected with a New Plan for Railways saved the day when Babs Castle MP (Member of Parliament) announced that BOTH branches were saved.

Nothing to do with the fact that same MP had holiday home in St Ives or Looe?

As a small point in the VERY same speech the Death Sentence was passed on the Bodmin Road-Bodmin-Wadebridge-Padstow line.

Now that's a line that should never have gone?

Trains to Padstow on May 1st would be meggar busy.
Probably, but keeping a line open for one day a year?HuhHuh The Looe branch can be rammed in summer, but lets remember that it's only about two morning trains down and two afternoon trips back up that are like that and it's usually only a single 153 so around 100 pax on each of those trains, compare to Falmouth 2 cars full and standing going up between 0700 and 1300 and full and standing going down between 1600 and 1900 and pretty damn full in between, or St Ives a 4 car full and standing between 1000 and 1400 going down and 1400 and 2000 coming back!
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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2008, 12:16:31 »

I never said it was for One day a year, I've been wisely informed the Branch into Wadebridge was reasonable used even if the BRB(resolve) did try to make the service unuseable in the 1960's. Bodmin is about the Biggest town in Cornwall, Wadebridge isn't small, and to run the extra few miles to Padstow, well it should never have shut.
 Padstow deserves a Rail service just as much as St Ives.

Does St Ives merit a service in the Winter months yet it gets a Train every 1/2 hour.
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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2008, 23:50:54 »

I never said it was for One day a year, I've been wisely informed the Branch into Wadebridge was reasonable used even if the BRB(resolve) did try to make the service unuseable in the 1960's. Bodmin is about the Biggest town in Cornwall, Wadebridge isn't small, and to run the extra few miles to Padstow, well it should never have shut.
 Padstow deserves a Rail service just as much as St Ives.

Does St Ives merit a service in the Winter months yet it gets a Train every 1/2 hour.
I'm not saying Padstow shouldn't have a rail service, but it probably comes to running cost's aswell, St Ives is a relatively low cost line, only 30mph max speed, does't interfere with the main line, could you really imagine St Ives these days in summer without the railway? the place would have choked!
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2009, 20:27:43 »

Just like Padstow in the summer, CHOKED
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