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« on: November 04, 2008, 19:17:52 » |
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Not sure how concrete this is:
From December 15th
0732 TAU» - BPW»
0913 BPW - TAU
1102 TAU - CDF»
1400 CDF - TAU
1612 TAU - CDF
1900 CDF - TAU
ECS▸ from/to Barton Hill with TnT 67s & Mk 2s
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John R
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 08:16:13 » |
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This is very similar to a service which was planned last December as contingency, but Network Rail sat on the scheme.
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MikeGTN
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 11:20:55 » |
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0913 BPW» departure only goes as far as WSM looking at the NRES▸ journey planner for 15th December. Is this going to run ECS▸ from WSM to TAU» ?
These times have appeared on other railway forums, and don't seem to tie-up very comfortably with existing diagrams. Indeed the 0732 becomes 0728 from the new timetable.
Would have hoped that the LHCS▸ set would have appeared on the 1600 or 1700 ex-CDF» which are both busy trains!
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 17:11:13 » |
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Anyhow, this has been confirmed by First Great Western
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John R
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 17:15:19 » |
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Does this train need more capacity then a 2 car dmu (at least the 0732) because the Yatton and Nailsea stops in the following XC▸ service are withdrawn?
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 17:26:26 » |
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Its more a case of freeing up stock resources, as 143s are off on a jolly to Exeter, this service formerly a 143 I presume.
Besides the 1612 from Taunton forms a 1725 (ish) from Bristol, so presumably might be squeeze!
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smithy
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 18:05:16 » |
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if rumours are to be believed it is because FGW▸ are losing 5 142's and ATW▸ 150's in december so they have no choice but to contract some cardiff-taunton work to EWS▸ going to be 2x class 60's and 4 coaches.
i would imagine once they eventually get the stock from LM▸ these will not be running,must be costing a fortune.
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G.Uard
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 18:08:11 » |
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I hear that this is going to happen. 2 x 67s and 4 coaches, almost certainly the 'Virgin' rake, (or similar), used on the summer Weymouths. Train to be run by EWS▸ crews with a possible FGW▸ conductor selling tickets.
No 'new' stock at all for FGW this winter, so no more 150/1s, three car or otherwise. Shortfall to be made up by splitting the hybrid 158s and reverting to 2 car operation. I am told FGW can do this because this was the level of service quoted when they took the franchise. I must underline that this is only word of mouth and I have not seen anything concrete. However, source is unimpeachable.
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MikeGTN
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 18:08:40 » |
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Anyhow, this has been confirmed by First Great Western
I've read that elsewhere too - but haven't seen it confirmed by FGW▸ anywhere yet. |
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devon_metro
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 18:17:55 » |
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Shortfall to be made up by splitting the hybrid 158s and reverting to 2 car operation. Very distrubing to hear. Its dispicable to believe that the DfT» can allow this when other areas get service improvements, whilst our timetable which remains the same gets less stock to provide it! |
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John R
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 18:20:39 » |
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I find this difficult to believe. There will be a riot. And only today FirstGroup stated in their latest investor report how they have stengthened the services to 3 coaches.
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G.Uard
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 18:23:41 » |
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From a front line perspective, I hope that this is just rumour.  |
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Btline
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 19:17:47 » |
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First they split them, then they reform them... ..now they are splitting them again.  I bet Andrew Haines didn't bank on this happening when he announced it!  However, if overcrowding gets worse again due to the 2 car 158s, and there is a nightmare after the new year (cancellations), the MTLS▸ Fares Strike will be resurected.  By the way, have they updated their website recently?  |
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6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 20:02:57 » |
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why not use 67 and 4 coaches on exmouth-paighton? after all that would free up two trains per trip (double pacers) and also ease over crowding
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Timmer
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 20:40:32 » |
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Shortfall to be made up by splitting the hybrid 158s and reverting to 2 car operation. I am told FGW▸ can do this because this was the level of service quoted when they took the franchise. I must underline that this is only word of mouth and I have not seen anything concrete. However, source is unimpeachable.
Oh please no, not another winter of discontent in FGW land. Fares are bound to be going up again in January and the sleeping MTLS▸ campaign will be awoken once again if we see 158s reverting back to 2 cars and overcrowding returning. Somebody tell us this isn't going to happen Why do ATW▸ suddenly need their five 150s back? |
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