Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 04:35 04 Apr 2025
 
- Luton airport expansion approved by government
- Ship owner takes legal action over North Sea crash
- Man shot dead by police at railway station named
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 15/04/25 - End, Rail Future consultation
15/04/25 - Everything Electric
16/04/25 - Walk from Chetnole
10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury

On this day
4th Apr (1966)
Release of Great St Trinians Train Robbery (*)

Train RunningCancelled
04:45 Redhill to Gatwick Airport
Short Run
04:32 Reading to Gatwick Airport
05:11 Gatwick Airport to Reading
05:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
06:31 Severn Beach to Weston-Super-Mare
07:12 London Paddington to Cardiff Central
08:10 Weston-Super-Mare to Severn Beach
12:25 Newbury to London Paddington
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
April 04, 2025, 04:36:47 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[130] 185 years of Reading Station
[115] Daily Mile - coming to Melksham for April
[59] [OTD] Senior Railcard launched 1st April 1975
[56] Transport in the West of England - Hustings for the next WECA ...
[46] Government approves Luton Airport expansion
[34] Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed
 
News: the Great Western Coffee Shop ... keeping you up to date with travel around the South West
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: Lack of trains from the West stopping at Newbury  (Read 8495 times)
Btline
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4782



View Profile
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2008, 21:31:16 »

Yes, I remember reading something similar on these boards a while back. And I agree.

You never know. FGW (First Great Western) might keep the 3 180s....
Logged
eightf48544
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 4574


View Profile Email
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 11:13:57 »

I think they should use the 180s to run a London to Westbury semi fast service to replace the Thames Turbo service to Bedwyn. London - M'head - Reading etc.

Then make occasional HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) calls here and there to keep people happy.
Aside from the fact that 180s are needed elsewhere Wink

I am sure that a good mix of fast/semi/stopping servce could be devised for Plymouth and West/Torquay to all intermediate staions to Reading via Westbury. However, whilst there is shortage of DMUS and electrification is still a dream we are stuck.

A possible solution is allegedly the 100 Mark 2 coaches in store although what condition they are in and how much it would cost to restore them I don't know. Also are there sufficient suitable locos to haul the say the 16 6 coach trains you could make?

But it's probably cheaper than buying 100 DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) new coaches. Ian Walmsley (head of Porterbrook Leasing) suggests, in a personal capacity, that the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) will cost 3 million per vehicle making a 10 coach set 30 million where an electric  loco would be 4 million and a coach 1 million making 14 million for the same number of seats. Even if you make it two locos one electric and one diesel (to haul the set off the wires) that's still only around 20 million per set. So if you buy 50 IEP (electric only) then you pay 150 million, wheres  you could get 75 sets of coaches each with two locos. Also if you buy only electric IEPs you still have the problem of through trains into unwired territory.  Definitely more bangs for your bucks. Quote is from Modern Railways November.

Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page