Through trains: London to Bristol, Weston and beyond (merged topics)

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[John R]

Waiting to alight at Nailsea on the 2145 Paddington to Exeter last night the TM^‡(resolve) mentioned that consideration is benig given to stopping this short at Temple Meads from next May.

Does anyone know if there is any truth in this, and if so, is the service specified under the franchise?

[clevedonian]

Waiting to alight at Nailsea on the 2145 Paddington to Exeter last night the TM^‡(resolve) mentioned that consideration is benig given to stopping this short at Temple Meads from next May.

Does anyone know if there is any truth in this, and if so, is the service specified under the franchise?

I have caught this train a few times, and when i have been on it passenger numbers are low.

It doesn;t need a HST^▸ (High Speed Train) a 2 car train would be fine in my opinion.

So they could just terminate the HST at Brizzle, and run a connectiong all station stopper to exeter/taunton or whatever.

[Timmer]

Isn't the set used for the 2145 used the following day for the 0546 Exeter-Padd? If so what would happen to this service?

[devon_metro]

Isn't the set used for the 2145 used the following day for the 0546 Exeter-Padd? If so what would happen to this service?

Its essentially a glorified ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) past Bristol.

[John R]

About 20 pax got off at Nailsea last night, though I would expect it to be pretty quite past Weston.

[Timmer]

Its essentially a glorified ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) past Bristol.

So that would still have to take place at some point during the night or a set come from Laira?

[Super Guard]

Its essentially a glorified ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) past Bristol.

So that would still have to take place at some point during the night or a set come from Laira?

It's Exeter Crew that work it, so one assumes it would go ECS back to Exeter.  There is a stopper (2200 Cardiff-Exeter) which goes ahead of the current HST^▸ (High Speed Train), but I am sure it could be re-timed to run as a 4-car behind the ECS HST.  It couldn't go down any later than it does, as it has to be cleaned ready for the 0546 Exeter-Padd.  I believe the 0546 is very busy by the time it goes through Pewsey, so the only sensible change might be to start it at Taunton, but then you'd have to get the Exeter crew up there so seems a bit pointless.

[devon_metro]

Said HST^▸ (High Speed Train) is cleaned in Riverside yard afaik. I've certainly seen it there whilst attempting to sleep on the "beds" with lots of customary wheelflats! 

[Super Guard]

Said HST^▸ (High Speed Train) is cleaned in Riverside yard afaik. I've certainly seen it there whilst attempting to sleep on the "beds" with lots of customary wheelflats! 

One of Exeter night cleaners boards on arrival from London ~0115, set then goes up to "New Yard" (Waterloo Yard), and is then bought out just after the 0510 Exeter-Waterloo leaves.  Riverside yard does not 'Shore Supply' afaik.  Riverside is usually used by freight, but was used by Voyagers when Exeter-Taunton was closed back in January.

[devon_metro]

Sorry,  i meant New Yard - always get those two mixed up

[Lee]

It's Exeter Crew that work it, so one assumes it would go ECS^▸ (Empty Coaching Stock) back to Exeter.  There is a stopper (2200 Cardiff-Exeter) which goes ahead of the current HST^▸ (High Speed Train), but I am sure it could be re-timed to run as a 4-car behind the ECS HST. 

How many coaches does the 2200 currently have, and what type of units are they?

[Super Guard]

Pre-timetable change, Monday-Thursday 2 car 143 (or 150 if you were lucky), Friday night had a 3-car 158.  I did have a 4 car once 150+143, so it did vary.

I believe that it's now a 143 or 150 Monday-Friday.