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« on: October 19, 2008, 08:46:19 » |
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This December - 5 x 142s to leave the South West (already known about - these were units to cover the lower availability during fleet refurb). Then ... I understand ...
June 2010
South West to loose the remaining 7 x 142 and 5 x 2 car 150s
South West to gain 7 x 3 car 150s
Views relayed to me
a) No real change in practise- same total capacity
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b) Could cause problems with a loss of operational flexibility
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 10:34:19 » |
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after spending over an hour on a pacer to barnstable... no love lost there but why are the 2 car 150's going?? the franchise system is stupid just let tocs aquire there own rolling stock!
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John R
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 10:49:47 » |
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If you assume the 142's are always diagrammed in pairs then there are 8 available diagrams with a spare 142. This will reduce to 7 diagrams. Is this too simplistic?
Hopefully the 5 150s are coming to Bristol to repplace the 143s.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 10:56:24 » |
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the pacers were said to be fit for purpose now dont get me wrong there are some routes they are fine for but exeter to barnstable no long journey lot of stopping and there really uncomfortable and you cant just sit back and relax on one it feels like everyone is in your face ( im hoping the higher seats on a 143 make this a bit better) , exeter to exmouth this route is getting busyer and busyer which means 2 pacers together... no connecting corridor so the guard is in a different section of the train sealed off is this actually safe?
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John R
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 11:22:33 » |
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Yes, my wife did the Exmouth branch yesterday and commented on the hordes of passengers alighting at Exmouth and how full the train was even with 4 coaches . She even took a photo of the 142 - I must be training her well!
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 11:37:35 » |
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Lets not forget the busy Riviera Line. 2 car can be a bit of a squeeze at certain times!
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vacman
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 14:15:59 » |
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the pacers were said to be fit for purpose now dont get me wrong there are some routes they are fine for but exeter to barnstable no long journey lot of stopping and there really uncomfortable and you cant just sit back and relax on one it feels like everyone is in your face ( im hoping the higher seats on a 143 make this a bit better) , exeter to exmouth this route is getting busyer and busyer which means 2 pacers together... no connecting corridor so the guard is in a different section of the train sealed off is this actually safe?
it's barnsaPle, theres a P in it.  |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2008, 14:20:28 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2008, 14:45:48 » |
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Depends what you mean by IMAO, relex109. There are various definitions.  However, to set the context - I'd overlooked your mis-spelling of Barnstable, as we moderators have a policy of not picking holes in spelling. However, when vacman pointed it out, I did see the opportunity to make a rather quizzical reference to his own correction itself being mis-spelt! I rather regret having got involved, now - even in such a light-hearted way. |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2008, 14:48:23 » |
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the lmao was also ment in a light hearted way both at myself and vac as im sure was also his intention but now as someone has taken this too seriously i wish i never posted a reply,....
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008, 14:56:55 » |
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In that case, no offence taken, relex109! Would you be happy for me to just remove our last two posts?
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« Last Edit: October 19, 2008, 15:30:05 by chris from nailsea »
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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grahame
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008, 14:59:47 » |
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I remember having got "caught short" once in that area and having to stop there for a P ...
Now ... where WERE we ...
Oh yes - discussing whether fewer, longer trains with in total the same number of seats would cause a problem. I can recall reacting less than positively when told (at the height of cancellation chaos) that we still had the same amount of capacity on the TransWilts, since the one train that HAD run one day was 4 coaches long ...
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2008, 15:00:00 » |
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im not sure if your messing or not so i would like to take the time to say i takes alot to offend me and i enjoy talking to everyone on this forum and that if i have anoyed anyone i am truly sorry that was not my intention
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