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« Reply #360 on: July 07, 2009, 20:55:46 »

Did anyone else sign up for the email information on the FGW (First Great Western) website. After registering I go the confirmation email immediately, but since then not a thing, not a single email. Has anyone else received any updates at all from this system?

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« Reply #361 on: July 10, 2009, 21:03:50 »

I've been away for several weeks so missed a lot of what's going on here.

As readers of other posts I've made will know, I now try not to use the Cotswold service if I can but I noticed an HST (High Speed Train) at Hereford today so I assumed that the Cotswold closure still hasn't hapened.

Still, hopefully, I'm moving to Cheltenham area soon so I think I may have done with the Cotswold line for a few years.
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« Reply #362 on: July 14, 2009, 14:28:17 »

All systems go for the start of work at the weekend, with lots of men in orange out and about between Moreton-in-Marsh and Evesham

There are mobile buildings at Charlbury, Blockley/Paxford and Honeybourne for site offices etc, machinery and cables stockpiled at Ascott-under-Wychwood and major preparations at either end of Chipping Campden tunnel with farm fields taken over for the duration, with lots of excavators and plant ready and waiting at the south end, along with a ballast stockpile and pre-cast concrete sections for new drainage at the north end and heavy-duty ventilation equipment. The second track will be laid throughout in the tunnel during this blockade, with 12,000 tonnes of ballast removed while the trackbed is lowered, and new drains installed inside and around the tunnel.

There will be another closure between Moreton and Evesham in the half-term next February, to allow replacement of a single-track bridge deck at Honeybourne a time of year that will not disturb the local newt population - apparently the old railway land there is a newt hotspot.
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« Reply #363 on: July 14, 2009, 16:34:17 »

There will be another closure between Moreton and Evesham in the half-term next February, to allow replacement of a single-track bridge deck at Honeybourne a time of year that will not disturb the local newt population - apparently the old railway land there is a newt hotspot.

Yes, the large amounts of plastic sheet fencing in the area is there to try and direct Great Crested Newts away from danger. Fortunately the viability of the whole redoubling project has been aided by the fact that there are few such structures that need replacing.
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« Reply #364 on: July 14, 2009, 16:41:57 »

Just received my first email update after signing up for advance information when it was first announced.
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« Reply #365 on: July 14, 2009, 18:32:16 »

Lots of pictures of the bridge that needs replacing at Honeybourne, plus some of the area in days gone by, here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=43795&start=0
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« Reply #366 on: July 14, 2009, 21:51:46 »

I'ld love to know how many pax will be on the 0408, 0411, 0431 and 0436 replacement bus services next Monday from Shrub Hill.... Also am I correct in saying that there are STILL no weekend printed timetables for services during this period?
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« Reply #367 on: July 14, 2009, 22:16:43 »

Also am I correct in saying that there are STILL no weekend printed timetables for services during this period?
You are correct and don't expect to see any either. FGW (First Great Western) don't do weekend printed timetables anymore as well as in most cases nothing on the website either unless its a basic revised timetable where they put a pdf of the poster that would appear at the stations affected.

The standard FGW line when it comes to engineering work now is to use the online journey planner or call National Rail enquiries. The best hope of getting anywhere near a full printed timetable is to use the XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) print your own timetable:
http://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/Find_a_train/Create_your_own_timetable.aspx

When it comes to engineering work revised timetables some TOCs (Train Operating Company) are better than others when it comes to publishing revised timetables online. The best TOCs that I've found are SWT (South West Trains) and NXEC (National Express East Coast). XC hardly bother at all.
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« Reply #368 on: July 15, 2009, 00:33:37 »

I'ld love to know how many pax will be on the 0408, 0411, 0431 and 0436 replacement bus services next Monday from Shrub Hill....

So are you saying they shouldn't bother running them? What do you expect them to do? Tell their passengers to get lost, like a certain discount airline definitely would in similar circumstances? I'd like to think FGW (First Great Western), and the railways in general, are better than that.

The roads around here aren't exactly super-highways, even the A44, so they have to allow lots more time for the bus journeys, never mind trying to cover all the potential journeys that people could be making, say Worcester to Charlbury.
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« Reply #369 on: July 15, 2009, 00:36:13 »

I'ld love to know how many pax will be on the 0408, 0411, 0431 and 0436 replacement bus services next Monday from Shrub Hill....

So are you saying they shouldn't bother running them? What do you expect them to do? Tell their passengers to get lost, like a certain discount airline definitely would in similar circumstances? I'd like to think FGW (First Great Western), and the railways in general, are better than that.

The roads around here aren't exactly super-highways, even the A44, so they have to allow lots more time for the bus journeys, never mind trying to cover all the potential journeys that people could be making, say Worcester to Charlbury. FGW are doing their best, so please spare us any more of the constant carping that your posts seem to feature.

Bet they are empty

prob only need 2 of the 4 of those buses

Even the trains at that time (sorry we dont have a 4am departure) are half empty if that from WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains)!
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« Reply #370 on: July 15, 2009, 00:51:17 »

And then they fill up further down the line, which pays their way, and allows Worcester to enjoy the level of service that it does...
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« Reply #371 on: July 15, 2009, 17:57:34 »

Also am I correct in saying that there are STILL no weekend printed timetables for services during this period?
You are correct and don't expect to see any either.
Well Steve, partial good news is that FGW (First Great Western) have produced timetable posters for weekend services which can be found on the North Cotswolds line improvements page which though not as good as a printed timetable is better than nothing at all:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=3501
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« Reply #372 on: July 15, 2009, 20:56:01 »

I'ld love to know how many pax will be on the 0408, 0411, 0431 and 0436 replacement bus services next Monday from Shrub Hill....

So are you saying they shouldn't bother running them? What do you expect them to do? Tell their passengers to get lost, like a certain discount airline definitely would in similar circumstances? I'd like to think FGW (First Great Western), and the railways in general, are better than that.

The roads around here aren't exactly super-highways, even the A44, so they have to allow lots more time for the bus journeys, never mind trying to cover all the potential journeys that people could be making, say Worcester to Charlbury. FGW are doing their best, so please spare us any more of the constant carping that your posts seem to feature.

Bet they are empty

prob only need 2 of the 4 of those buses

Even the trains at that time (sorry we dont have a 4am departure) are half empty if that from WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains)!

I am just saying (and this is a forum where I can politely and frivolously express an opinion), that 4 buses departing within 30 minutes at such an early hour is overkill. Without bringing the esteemed founder of this forum into the argument, I feel he was making a similer point about the 0520 rail replacement bus from Swindon to Melksham in August....
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« Reply #373 on: July 15, 2009, 21:32:55 »

... that 4 buses departing within 30 minutes at such an early hour is overkill. Without bringing the esteemed founder of this forum into the argument, I feel he was making a similer point about the 0520 rail replacement bus from Swindon to Melksham in August....

I'm not going to get drawn into a Cotswold Argument ... I don't have the local knowledge. However, I would not like to suggest that (on the TransWilts) a service that consists of a daily bus at twenty past five in the morning from Swindon, plus a short working at 18:30 from Chippenham, is overkill as the complete service for a town the size of Evesham.  Will Evesham be getting 2 buses a day, or more?  Wink Wink
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« Reply #374 on: July 15, 2009, 22:42:17 »

What concerns me is the number of Worcester based businesses that have employees using the train on a regular basis that don't seem to know about this, my own employer included. There was uproar in the office today when I happened to mention the line closure and the secretary informed me she had about 30 separate journeys booked over August for several people down to London. Companies that book tickets on a frequent basis and months in advance don't tend to get into the habit of checking for engineering works. There are I think a couple of trains in the morning from WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains) down to PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) on the Golden Valley Line and a couple in the evening but the rest are buses.
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