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« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2010, 09:38:38 » |
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Dim is the answer - however, the switch for each coach is in the public area and thus can be changed.
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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2010, 11:00:22 » |
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As ChrisB says, dim is the answer. Too many complaints when they were refreshed especially at night - even the dim setting isn't very dim! Occasionally there'll be sets or individual carriages on 'full beam' but not often.
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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2010, 14:33:56 » |
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I will always switch the lights to dim if they are on bright.
Dim is bright enough, bright is just too bright. The sooner they turn it into a T-key switch the better.
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« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2010, 15:09:50 » |
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We have an old thread running with a slightly more detailed discussion of these issues, so in the interest of keeping everything neat and tidy I've merged them together!
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2010, 19:18:07 » |
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They should be on dim yes. Whether or not it is written on paper that they must be is a different matter.
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2010, 19:48:28 » |
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When the refresh sets first appeared there was an instruction that came out that when the sets were prepared on the depots that all lights were to be set on dim.
We were instructed that if we found any on high then we were to put them back to dim.
Will ask around next week to see if this has changed.
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2011, 10:18:39 » |
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On two recent trips in HSTs▸ I was interested to observe that full lighting was in use, contary to the usual recent practice of half lighting only.
In my view the use of full lighting is preferable in bright weather, reduced interior lighting in such circumstances presents a sad and gloomy appearence, whereas full lighting gives a bright and cheerful apprearence.
In dull weather, or during the hours of darkness, I would consider half lighting only to be better. Full lighting in such circumstances presents an excesive contrast between interior and exterior lighting and therby spoils the view.
It may seem counter-intuitive to provide more lighting in bright weather, and less in dull conditions, but it is in fact sensible.
As well as providing for safe movement and comfortable reading, interior lighting should, so far as posible, reduce the contrast between interior and exterior lighting levels.
It should also be noted that many platforms have only basic lighting after dark, an excessive level of light on the train can make alighting in the dark hazerdous since the contrast is too great and eyes can take a minute or more to adapt.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2011, 10:27:28 » |
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I assume the "dim" setting is alternate lights down the carriage ceiling being on. That being the case it must mean uneven wear on the lights if the tendency is not to use the bright setting. Unless of course there are two dim settings which swap which lights are used. Might also give a last chance if one set isn't working for some reason. Obviously this would not cope with a major electrical failure but might occasionally save the day.
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« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2011, 12:18:40 » |
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I am a pensioner going into my mid-seventies. My optician has told me that as you get older your eyes need more light to see properly, especially when reading. It seems to me that whether the HSTs▸ have dim or bright lighting settings in use, someone will not be happy. The better solution that is only usually available in first class is for individual light controls but, of course, you have to pay extra for that, usually.
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« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2011, 16:09:25 » |
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I assume the "dim" setting is alternate lights down the carriage ceiling being on. That being the case it must mean uneven wear on the lights if the tendency is not to use the bright setting. Unless of course there are two dim settings which swap which lights are used. Might also give a last chance if one set isn't working for some reason. Obviously this would not cope with a major electrical failure but might occasionally save the day.
Yes, the dim or half light setting only lights alternate lamps. This does indeed lead to uneven wear, since on half light it is allways the same lamps that are lit and these get more use. If full lighting is in use, it may be observed that the less used lamps are slightly brighter on account of the less use that they have had. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2011, 15:46:43 » |
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Was interested to see that the lighting had been altered on last nights train.
(18-03 from Paddington, 26/10/2011, coach F)
The previously used "daylight" lamps had been replaced with "warm white" still with only alternate lamps lit.
Do not know if this was throughout or only in the restaurant.
Trains in other platforms still had daylight lamps.
Although I like daylight flourescent lamps and use them at home, I accept that I am in a minority regarding this and I suspect that most customers will welcome this change to warm white lighting.
Does anyone know if this is just for the restaurant, or throughout.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2011, 09:29:24 » |
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Does anyone know if this is just for the restaurant, or throughout.
All sets are being fitted as they come up for replacement. |
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