|
eightf48544
|
 |
« on: September 10, 2008, 16:32:20 » |
|
Apparently there are going to be trains run by two TOCS.
They are on the old Thameslink they will start South of the river as Southeastern and then become FCC▸ North of Blackfriars.
This poses an interesting conumdrum as FCC have evening peak restrictions on off peak tickets going North, Southeastern don't. So will you be able to travel from say London Bridge to North of zone 6 in teh peak on a Southeastern off peak ticket?
I was going to put this in the Lighter Side but then thought Smoke and Mirrors seemed more appropriate.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
John R
|
|
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 18:17:18 » |
|
Weren't the South West -Scotland via West Coast services run by two TOCs▸ for a month (XC▸ and VWC) before they finally ceased.
Anyone think of any other examples?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
super tm
|
|
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 18:55:35 » |
|
It is the tickets that are restricted. As FCC▸ set the fares north of the river they set the restrictions so there will be no change. The resaon that there are not many restrictions going south is that south eastern set the fares and they do not have evening restrictions.
There used to be a joint Wessex South west trains service that ran from Waterloo to Penzance. IIRC▸ there was one train running at the weekend.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
devon_metro
|
|
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 19:04:17 » |
|
FGW▸ Crew a SWT▸ service if that counts.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Btline
|
|
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 22:05:15 » |
|
Central Trains and Silverlink ran services between Euston and B'ham/Liverpool etc.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Electric train
|
|
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 22:54:47 » |
|
Apparently there are going to be trains run by two TOCS.
They are on the old Thameslink they will start South of the river as Southeastern and then become FCC▸ North of Blackfriars.
This poses an interesting conumdrum as FCC have evening peak restrictions on off peak tickets going North, Southeastern don't. So will you be able to travel from say London Bridge to North of zone 6 in teh peak on a Southeastern off peak ticket?
I was going to put this in the Lighter Side but then thought Smoke and Mirrors seemed more appropriate.
Is this going to be a permanent arrangement or only while Blackfriars station is closed while it is being rebuilt by the Thameslink project |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
|
|
|
|
eightf48544
|
|
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 10:47:14 » |
|
Is this going to be a permanent arrangement or only while Blackfriars station is closed while it is being rebuilt by the Thameslink project
Will check with my source and let you know. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Worcester_Passenger
|
|
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 13:08:47 » |
|
There are through services from Newcastle to Stranraer and Glasgow Central via Dumfries which are operated by Northern Rail and Scotrail. I think that the service uses Scotrail stock but has Northern crews between Newcastle and Carlisle, though perhaps someone else can confirm this.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
inspector_blakey
|
|
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 19:43:16 » |
|
And of course the through Bristol - Oxford services used to be run jointly by FGW▸ (or was it GWT back then?) and Thames Trains. I can't remember if the conductor used to change at Swindon or if it just depended on the service whether the conductor was FGW or TT staff. I certainly saw staff from both companies on the few times I used it. Were FGW drivers trained on the 165s, TT drivers trained on the route or was it a combination of both?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
grahame
|
|
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 20:03:06 » |
|
... I certainly saw staff from both companies on the few times I used it. Were FGW▸ drivers trained on the 165s, TT drivers trained on the route or was it a combination of both?
Gosh - I used to use that service up to Oxford quite often, but I can't answer the question. Those were that days that I was just a dumb passenger, and trusted that the train operators knew what they were doing, under the watchful eye of an impartial governmental body of some sort that had the best interests of the traveller as their number one priority, and always got it right! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
|
|
|
|
super tm
|
|
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 21:25:48 » |
|
Both FGW▸ and TT drivers and FGW Train Manager and TT Senior Conductors worked this service.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
devonian
|
|
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 08:32:58 » |
|
I went from Redhill to Tonbridge the other day. It was a Southern service and train but all staff in SOutheastern uniform. How does this work? Do they split the revenue? All stations were in Southern livery.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
G.Uard
|
|
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 09:48:22 » |
|
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but you will still find ATW▸ drivers on the FGW▸ Cardiff-Pompeys.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Ollie
|
|
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 13:52:37 » |
|
You will also find Southern drivers doing an early Gatwick - Reading and vice versa and again in the evening.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
John R
|
|
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 13:57:21 » |
|
I guess that make's sense, as it avoids having to base FGW▸ drivers at Gatwick or getting them there first thing.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Click on the map to explore geographics
