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« on: September 07, 2008, 16:49:37 »

To those of you who might catch the 0856 Cross Country arrival into Bristol Temple Meads, from Nailsea, Yatton, Weston, Taunton etc. (0640 Plymouth - Aberdeen) From tomorrow, this will be an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) with 7 coaches and will now go all the way to Aberdeen.

I will be interested to see how punctual this will be!
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2008, 16:52:31 »

Wow, get's better and better. I shall have to get that tomorrow. A 5th morning HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) from Nailsea into Bristol. It's usually very punctual, and indeed stands for 2 mins at Nailsea most mornings.  Thanks for the info D-M.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2008, 17:23:20 »

Yes, thanks for that information, Liam!  Cheesy

As John says, the 0846 XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) from Nailsea is generally very reliable and punctual - which is more than can be said for the 0946 FGW (First Great Western) service!  That's rather prone to delays or cancellations / starting from BTM (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)), for example.  Roll Eyes

I may well see you on the platform at Nailsea tomorrow morning, John!

C. Wink Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 17:35:38 »

Only reason I say it might be late is due to the timings which are very tight for an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)).

Plymouth - Exeter in 56 minutes, whilst FGW (First Great Western) allow 60 in most cases.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2008, 17:52:15 »

Be interesting to see if they use SDO (Selective Door Opening) at a short platform then.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2008, 18:01:56 »

Well, the 0946 HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) uses SDO (Selective Door Opening) at Nailsea, and it does add to dwell times - but only marginally, in my experience.

However, that particular service starts at Weston, so it's not had chance to build up a cumulative delay by the time it reaches Nailsea!  As you say, Liam, it will be interesting to see how an HST on the 0846 from Plymouth actually works!  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2008, 18:20:24 »

It hasn't got SDO (Selective Door Opening) either, so all doors are open. The 1711 from Bristol will also be an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) giving Dawlish and Teignmouth a daily XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) HST service.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2008, 18:44:37 »

Well, the 0946 HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) uses SDO (Selective Door Opening) at Nailsea, and it does add to dwell times - but only marginally, in my experience.

However, that particular service starts at Weston, so it's not had chance to build up a cumulative delay by the time it reaches Nailsea!  As you say, Liam, it will be interesting to see how an HST on the 0846 from Plymouth actually works!  Wink

Thought it started at Paignton?
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2008, 18:55:36 »

Ermm, sorry, John, but I have it starting from Plymouth, according to my search result from the National Rail website?  Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2008, 18:57:47 »

Ermm, sorry, John, but I have it starting from Plymouth, according to my search result from the National Rail website?  Tongue


I meant the 0946, which I think if I understood you correctly you were suggesting starts from Weston, and hence doesn't have much time to built up SDO (Selective Door Opening) related delays.   
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2008, 19:03:34 »

0738 Paignton - Paddington is the one you are looking for Wink

I often find it runs pretty much on time as far as Weston Super Mud!
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 19:05:39 »

In which case, John, you're quite right: my apologies for misunderstanding your point.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 10:10:04 »

It certainly appeared to be on time this morning, rear 43 in new XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) livery, paasengers were certainly happier than those from our neck of the woods, if we were running to time I would have missed it. I arrived at Trowbridge to catch the 07.58 Cardiff train, now the platform is normally quite quiet as the 07.44 Worcester train will have just left which can be quite busy, (not my favorite train as it sits for an eternity at BTM (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative))). This morning the station was packed due to the 07.44 being delayed, with problems also compounded by lack of train crew for the 07.58, Cardiff train, so not only didn't the Cardiff arrive before the the delayed 07.44, but when the 07.44 finally turned up and was only a single 153 there were obviously looks of horror on many faces.

Fortunately station staff were well informed and walked the platform to tell all waiting passengers that the Cardiff was right behind and there was no need to pack the Worcester train. Cardiff duly turned up as 150+158 (5 cars full and standing by BTM)

We were therefore late off BTM and were held outside the station to allow the HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) to pass.
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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2008, 18:42:01 »

To inform those of you using the 0846 from Nailsea (0640 PLY» (Plymouth - next trains)-ABD)

Tomorrow this will be formed of the refurbished cross country HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2008, 20:07:47 »

Thanks for that information, Liam!

John - are you still catching the 08:46?  Care to compare notes on this refurbished version tomorrow?  Cheesy
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