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« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2008, 23:33:17 »

So will they be handing back any buffet cars to the leasing company?  Just it talks about 70% of services having buffets, and Im sure that over 70% of services already have buffets, so is this a loss?

Also how will they create more seats as a result of creating mini buffets? 
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« Reply #76 on: September 19, 2008, 16:10:22 »

Certainly was driven hard. You don't often get a whiff of brakepads on HSTs (High Speed Train) these days - anyone remember the stench the a/c used to suck in from the original type BR (British Rail(ways)) used in the late 1970s? - but we did on this occasion approaching both stations and again at Wolvercot, as the driver was using the 100mph limit to the full after Charlbury.
I remember it well. As you say, you only smell the brake pads nowadays if the driver has had to break hard.

The Smell of Brakes on HST's in the early days, was (mainly) Resloved by putting a small Mod in the Air Con system, that when Brakes were applied the Air Con External Air inlet was closed whilst Brakes were appiled, however it only closed for a short time, and reopened after a short time delay.
So for prolonged brake applications or very heavy use of the brakes the smell of burning brakes still effect passenger saloons.
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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2008, 22:01:07 »

What is the latest with the buffet situation?
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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2008, 22:11:45 »

has anyone else seen a couple of old school buffet cars flying around the southwest?
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« Reply #79 on: November 11, 2008, 00:26:16 »

has anyone else seen a couple of old school buffet cars flying around the southwest?
They've always been flying about!
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« Reply #80 on: November 11, 2008, 12:50:09 »

So how few services have no buffet each week?

Will the additonal hst set being gained from the end of the year havea  buffet car?

Are they not refurbishing the buffets in the ubrefirbished sets as well, as I thought they committed to refurbishing all rolling stock?  I find it odd when I see sets go past with an ld buffet, with old style first class seats.  Doesnt create a good impression in my eyes.
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« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2008, 14:18:58 »

So how few services have no buffet each week?

Will the additonal hst set being gained from the end of the year havea  buffet car?

Are they not refurbishing the buffets in the ubrefirbished sets as well, as I thought they committed to refurbishing all rolling stock?  I find it odd when I see sets go past with an ld buffet, with old style first class seats.  Doesnt create a good impression in my eyes.

It does, the old buffet cars are much more plush (and comfortable) than their modern counterparts!
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« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2008, 14:41:43 »

I'm sure we'd all much rather have unrefurbished buffets than the original plan of no buffets. And I agree with D-M. When travelling down to Cornwall recently I was delighted to find one of the unrefurbed buffets with the brown seats. Long distance travel how it used to be before First ruined the experience.
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« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2008, 17:05:11 »

SO there are no plans to refurb those buffets?
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« Reply #84 on: November 11, 2008, 19:40:21 »

I was under the impression that now FGW (First Great Western) had decided to keep the buffets that the remaining coaches would be refurbed, although I am not that important to be told such things  Grin
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« Reply #85 on: November 12, 2008, 07:26:18 »

It would seem stupid not to, given the cost savings for spare parts etc oif all of the carraiges had the same style interiors etc. 
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« Reply #86 on: November 12, 2008, 09:41:06 »

I think there are 2 possibly 3 sets running as 2/7 without a buffet, 70% of services will retain a buffet and the other sets will get a mini buffet built somewhere in the train, apparently catering staff have be involved having viewed the prototype unit at some factory up North, and they came away very very impressed with it indeed, its much bigger and much better equipped than they had imagined.
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« Reply #87 on: November 12, 2008, 18:58:13 »

Yes, but it is no good having a "mini buffet" on a Pullman train.

And having an extra coach means more seats.

Still not convinced.
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« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2008, 16:27:46 »

Yes, but it is no good having a "mini buffet" on a Pullman train.


How many 'Pullman' services actually operate at any one time though?
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« Reply #89 on: November 13, 2008, 16:36:12 »

Yes, but it is no good having a "mini buffet" on a Pullman train.

And having an extra coach means more seats.

Still not convinced.

Some people never satisfied. Incase you have forgotten, the original plan was for NO BUFFET!
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