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Author Topic: Dawlish and Dawlish Warren sea defences - ongoing concerns and issues discussion  (Read 48998 times)
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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2010, 21:45:10 »

Rock armouring vandalised overnight, some very large rocks are in pieces on the pathway between the Warren and the Red Rock Cafe.
Some rocks were dumped trackside but luckily clear of the rails - BTP (British Transport Police) attended.
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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2010, 15:59:16 »

Odd picture, nothing to do with the Great IKB (Isambard Kingdom Brunel), but how many UP trains run Wrong line along the sea wall. Only the Up line is Bi-directable.

Well Sure looks like a lack of Tail lights and Two white markers and a head light appear to be lit.
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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2010, 19:07:32 »

smokey, I initially thought the same thing about the photo - the HST (High Speed Train) lights do appear to show wrong line running. However, on blowing up the photo it appears that the red light is indeed showing and appears dim because of the sunlight, the same sunlight giving the impression that the headlamps are illuminated. Also on magnification there is no evidence of a driver in the cab.
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« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2010, 19:22:05 »

I agree with bignosemac: see the original picture, at http://www.soton.ac.uk/~imw/jpg-Dawlish-Warren/8DLW-Dawlish-Train-Wall.jpg
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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2010, 21:32:43 »

Rail chiefs have been urged to build an alternative route around the notorious Dawlish main line as part of an investigation into how climate change could disrupt commuter links.

Network Rail has confirmed a comprehensive study of whether at-risk tracks, embankments and bridges can withstand the predicted increase in extreme weather events will include the main Westcountry coast line bordering the sea between Exeter and Newton Abbot.
 http://www.thisiswesternmorningnews.co.uk/news/Climate-threat-West-rail-link/article-2373354-detail/article.html
An old chestnut I know but one that wont go away.One rail source told the Western Morning News newspaper that any expectations that the review would lead to a re-routing around Dawlish was "wishful thinking".

"I think the chances are zero," the source said. "Plymouth just does not have enough of a population to justify the investment. There was little appetite before the downturn, so there will be even less now.My thoughts exactly."So does that mean if the worst were to happen in the future we could eventually hear this announcment at Exeter,"All change this is Exeter St Davids,change here for bus connections to Plymouth,Torbay and Cornwall".
 Thoughts anyone.
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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2010, 22:03:26 »

Non story.

Western Morning News. End. Of.

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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2010, 22:20:50 »

The story (from a rather less introspective point of view) was also covered in the Guardian, yesterday:

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Network Rail study to assess impact of climate change

Thousands of miles of railway track to be examined for ability to withstand storms, flooding and heatwaves

Potential safety threats to thousands of miles of railway from extreme storms, floods and heatwaves as the impact of climate change worsens are being investigated by railway engineers and meteorologists.

A study by Network Rail will look at exposed coastal tracks, embankments and thousands of bridges to see whether they can withstand the increase in extreme weather events that climatologists have predicted over coming decades.

The UK (United Kingdom)-wide investigation will cost ^750,000 but railway executives believe that implementing its expected recommendations could save the industry ^1bn over the next 30 years by improving safety and preventing emergencies.

The climate change adaptation programme, commissioned by the rail industry safety board (RSSB (Rail Safety and Standards Board)) follows the intense storm that flooded the south coast line bordering the sea at Dawlish in Devon in 2004, and a series of problems with buckled rails during heatwaves.

At Dawlish, the waves breached a sea wall designed to withstand a severe "one in a hundred years" storm. An official investigation predicted that by 2080 these very severe storms could occur as often as once every 14 years, with the incidence of waves breaking over the sea wall increasing by at least 6,000% by then, raising serious doubts about the line's future.

John Dora, Network Rail's principal engineer for climate change, said the review was designed to identify "what we can do in the long term to make the rail network more robust".

The project will look at 150 miles of vulnerable coastal lines. It will study the risk of flooding and landslides for about 9,000 miles of cuttings and embankments alongside lines, and the ability of 4,500 bridges that span rivers and estuaries to withstand floods.

Network Rail engineers believe as many as 10% of those bridges may need strengthening. Much of the rail network is Victorian, and tracks were laid alongside rivers and coasts, and built through cuttings and on earthworks, because early locomotives needed the lowest gradients possible.

The potential threat was underlined by last November's Cumbrian floods, when six road bridges around Cockermouth collapsed ^ in one case, killing a policeman. Last month, 60 train passengers narrowly escaped serious injury after a rock fall derailed a train near Oban, in Scotland.

More intense and frequent heatwaves increase the threat of lines buckling, leading to cancellations and disrupting maintenance schedules, while high winds can affect overhead power lines. Storms also increase the risks of debris blowing on to tracks or damaging power lines.

Industry executives say climate change and rising fuel prices will present the rail network with a paradox: passenger numbers and services are expected to increase sharply as travellers switch from using cars and short-haul flights. Yet, at the same time, the risks of climate-related disruptions are expected to increase.

Network Rail stresses that the UK's rail system is already robust, and has been "future-proofed" to cope with current weather conditions. After an earlier programme to investigate flood risks, the company is spending ^160m on improving drainage systems and has been fitting higher-standard rails able to cope with warmer temperatures.

The new review will involve designing modelling tools with the Met Office to predict what severe weather events might take place and which lines are most at risk. New flood maps will be produced using laser-based technology.

Dora said Network Rail had been re-examining all its embankments and slopes since 2000, adding that it was difficult to predict how much the extra remedial work might cost until the review was completed. The final report is expected in February or March next year.

"Erosion around the coast is a problem, sea level rise is a problem and increased storminess with waves crashing over the coast can be a problem. With many things like that there are technical, engineering solutions that can be put in place which can mitigate against them," he said.

"The railway is very good at learning from history and very good at prioritising, and with the technology out there just now in research, and looking at innovation, I personally see the railway becoming very smart at targeting its activity at these high-risk areas."
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« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2010, 23:47:20 »

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Surely we could have all those ASW planes that are shortly going to be available to fly EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains)-NTA» (Newton Abbott - next trains) ?  There's a nice straight bit of track out of Exeter City Basin towards Starcross and one on the approach to NTA for runways...

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« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2010, 08:18:56 »

MINISTERS have been urged to continue investment in a stretch of rail track on the South Devon coast as it provides a 'lifeline' for the community providing jobs and transport.

Tory MP (Member of Parliament) for Teignbridge Anne Marie Morris pressed the case for the maintenance of the track between Exeter and Plymouth, which runs through Starcross, Dawlish, Teignmouth and Newton Abbot.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/regionalnews/continued-investment-railway-track-lifeline/article-2827914-detail/article.html
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« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2010, 18:45:44 »

WHY the shouting?  Huh
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« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2010, 19:30:58 »

I guess because the Plymouth Herald 'shouted' "MINISTERS" as well. Cut and paste job I expect.  Wink
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« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2010, 21:04:05 »

There's a lot of work going on down there now - Dawlish to Red Rock is having a protective fence installed on the cliff side.
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« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2010, 22:15:23 »

Government won't rule out inland rail line
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Government-won-t-rule-inland-rail-line/article-2881650-detail/article.html
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« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2011, 16:50:36 »

Sea defences will keep the Dawlish to Teignmouth railway line viable according to the Environment Minister.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-12306539
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« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2011, 00:51:44 »

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